Red eyed tree frog housing+ lighting

[deniserothfus]

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[stat]

I think this thread may have turned too argumentative. No one has the exact answers on what way of keeping them is best, and everyone will say their way is the best, because everyone tries their best to give their critters the best care possible. It's clear though that both ways of keeping this species specifically (A. callidryas, irregardless of what works with other species), work successfully. I do believe its a bit much to compare lack of uvb for a nocturnal animal (when d3 supplementation is required no matter what) to keeping an animal that instinctively hides under leaves all day in a bare bones tank. I work in a pet store, and have seen how people will dump us with unwanted animals who were just surviving in their care, but I think the evidence is more compelling for them being perfectly healthy with or without uvb, and that putting funds into a live planted tank with a clean filtered water source and drainage layer is of greater importance for this particular frog (especially in my case, where screen space is limited already and lack of air flow can create a better environment for infection to set in). I certainly respect your opinion though, it's clear you care a great deal about animals and I do agree that uvb is safer than no uvb, but for me access to fresh circulating air is a big concern (I've seen red leg before, and am extremely cautious of it occurring).

[Diver]

It's true that nobody has the exact answers, to just about anything in life unfortunately! I am however contributing to this thread to let people know the established thinking among the vast majority of keepers and breeders over here.
The UVB debate has been put to bed. It's available, it's necessary and is a standard part of husbandry. UVB has no effect on air circulation, so that is not an issue.
Where UVB is provided, D3 supplementation is NOT given. Part of the reason to not rely on supplements is that you can't dose them. For calcium that doesn't matter because you can't overdose on calcium. You can however overdose on D3, so how do you know you're giving the right amount?
Frogs are able to detect UVB and so are able to self regulate their intake. I have over 200 Red Eyes and when I look at them during the day some are on top of leaves, some are underneath. Millions of years of evolution is a wonderful thing Don't confuse nocturnal activity for not having a relationship to the sun, these animals get their D3 in the wild from nowhere else.