New Red-Eyed Tree Frog's condition. Question.

[MantidBro]

Using temps to cure chytrid isn't 100%
http://www.conservationevidence.com/actions/770


I haven't seen anyone stating that salt baths can cure chytrid (or that they are that safe for frogs)...I doubt that this amount of salt does anything to kill bacteria or fungus....higher amounts of salt in a bath willl actually dehydrate the frog as it won't be isotonic.

Pedialyte bath is a better choice in a pinch as it will help with dehydration.

More specific to frogs, Frog's N Things sells amphibian ringer's that is a good for rehydrating frogs....they also sell calcium gluconate that is good to replenish calcium and glucose. They sell a frog first aid kit that is good to have around for emergencies that has several items (including these) in it.
http://www.frogsnthings.com/storefro...og/health.html


As mentioned earlier, itraconazole baths or lamisil (terbinafine) baths are more accepted treatments for chytrid.
That being said, the only way to really tell if your heat treatment was successful is to test for chytrid afterwards.

Also remember that the frogs can get reinfected by items that weren't treated / sterilized as well.



As these were WC and from a suspect vendor, definitely have the fecals done and swab for Chytrid and Rana....it will save you from alot of problems with this frog and the other frogs.

Glad to hear that the frog is doing better now.

Oh really?

I don't think the frog is dehydrated at this point, I mist heavily and she's got a water bowl and all that good stuff. She very well may have previously though. I honestly think the salt, as well as the pedialyte, helped. She is doing much better. She's not as lazy, she is wide-eyed and alert, she no longer has that gross shedding, her throat is healing, and her poop looked normal the last time she did have a movement. She looks like a beautiful, healthy frog aside from the injury on her throat. I no longer do either baths, the salt or pedialyte, because she's been seeming well. It's been 3-4 days since her last salt/pedialyte bath.

I've been boiling everything every night.

I will get that done when I can, I'm honestly not entirely well off financially. It's not good of me, I know... I shouldn't even have pets if I can't do what's necessary. I just wasn't expecting to get a sick frog, so wasn't prepared I guess. From now on I'll keep some cash on the side in case something like this happens.

I'm glad too, it's great, I was seriously worried, it's a load off. Can't wait til the little one is finally eating!

[Crunchy Frog]

Hi. Glad to see that your new froggie is doing better.

as far as the possibility of chytrid, I'm pretty much to the point of simply assuming it in WC or exposed to WC frogs, and treating as a matter of routine. You can use the Lamisil spray technique, which is super cheap, and doesn't require a vet. I'm currently doing this with my WC Clown tree frogs, and it seems to be working out well. After a few treatments, their colors become much more vivid and their appetites seem to improve. This suggests a subclinical infection, despite appearing generally healthy. They tested negative when I first got them, but false negatives are not uncommon.

i would not try the elevated temps for treating Chytrid, as the lowest effective temps are in the upper 80s, and would likely put too much stress on an already stressed animal. Temps in the upper 70s to lower 80s might be a good idea though, as it shouldn't stress the frog, and should keep the Chytrid in check (if it's there).

Another consideration with WCs is that they just about always have parasites. I believe that Dr. Frye does low cost fecals, and most issues can be treated with Panacur. I would do that as soon as you get some money together.

Thanks for the heads up on Snakesatsunset. You might want to write up a review in the feedback section.

[MantidBro]

Hi. Glad to see that your new froggie is doing better.

as far as the possibility of chytrid, I'm pretty much to the point of simply assuming it in WC or exposed to WC frogs, and treating as a matter of routine. You can use the Lamisil spray technique, which is super cheap, and doesn't require a vet. I'm currently doing this with my WC Clown tree frogs, and it seems to be working out well. After a few treatments, their colors become much more vivid and their appetites seem to improve. This suggests a subclinical infection, despite appearing generally healthy. They tested negative when I first got them, but false negatives are not uncommon.

i would not try the elevated temps for treating Chytrid, as the lowest effective temps are in the upper 80s, and would likely put too much stress on an already stressed animal. Temps in the upper 70s to lower 80s might be a good idea though, as it shouldn't stress the frog, and should keep the Chytrid in check (if it's there).

Another consideration with WCs is that they just about always have parasites. I believe that Dr. Frye does low cost fecals, and most issues can be treated with Panacur. I would do that as soon as you get some money together.

Thanks for the heads up on Snakesatsunset. You might want to write up a review in the feedback section.

Oh yeah i only ever went up to 80 F.

Yeah i should huh? i will

[MantidBro]

I am happy to say that Lucky is doing fantastic! Totally regular Red-Eye now. Eating every night, poops look regular, no yucky shedding, and the injury is practically gone now. Looking lively and alert. When I went to take her out for cleaning, she became frantic, which I consider to be a good sign. She has energy, and does not want to be captured! she used to be quite lethargic.

I wanted to thank you all for the help. I really appreciate it!!!

[Cliygh and Mia 2]

Great to hear!

[MantidBro]

Great to hear!

yeah im happy!!

[LilyPad]

Great news!! I am happy she's pulling through for you. I would have been curious what the chytrid test would have come back as so we could see if the heat therapy was working or if she was recovering from something else. Very exciting!

[MantidBro]

Great news!! I am happy she's pulling through for you. I would have been curious what the chytrid test would have come back as so we could see if the heat therapy was working or if she was recovering from something else. Very exciting!

Me too! I also was curious, its unfortunate that i wasnt able to ger her tested. I think it was the heat therapy plus the uniodized salt baths.

I cant wait to put Lucky in with Frenchy and Newbie! Hopefully she is female and not male. She seems so small to be female, i dont think Frenchy or Newbie could even fit on her back! she'd probably fall over lol. Maybe she just needs to eat more?

I noticed she looks a loooot like Frenchy. But not like Newbie. Newbie has a different look than Frenchy and Lucky, i sometimes wonder if Newbie may be female.

Btw, for future references. How can you tell when a male and female are ready to mate? Like if Lucky is put in with them, will the reaction of the males be very noticable? will they be all over her?