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    Default Re: Whites Tree Frog - Looking very poorly

    The image uploader is not working but if you have a photobucket, flickr, instagram etc. account you can upload from there. That is what I have been doing. A picture would be very helpful.
    I am not an expert so someone correct me if I am wrong but here are a few things I noticed:

    Lighting- I would increase lighting to 12+ hours per day

    Water- If you are going to use tap water it should be treated with a water conditioner (Prime, Reptisafe, API Stress Coat, Tetra Aquasafe etc.)

    Substrate- I would get rid of the bark and put moist paper towels down for now so you will be able to see the poo. The bark poses an impaction risk if he were to accidentally ingest a piece. When he gets better you can switch to a coco fiber substrate. (Eco Earth, Plantation Soil etc.)

    You say you are dusting his food items now. May I ask what you are using?

    I hope this helps and if I forgot anything someone let me know.


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    Here is a photo of him;
    http://s35.photobucket.com/user/vict...G0842.jpg.html

    When you say use paper towels, how many should you use, and how wet should they be? does anyone have any photos of how this should be set up?

    I am not sure on the brand but we also have a leopard gecko that we used to dust, so its the same pot.

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    Here is a pic I found to show the paper towel as substrate. It should be enough to cover the bottom of the enclosure- maybe just two layers thick- as it will need to be changed when it gets soiled. I would wet the paper towels thoroughly and squeeze the excess water out.

    I found a dusting powder that is available in the UK. It's also the only one I found and I don't know if it is any good but I figure it is worth a try.
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Komodo-Premi.../dp/B006314AE2 you may need to copy and post it into your browser, sorry.

    Also, the cricket in the picture seems a bit big for your frog. I would try a smaller size. A good rule to go by would be the feeder should not be bigger than the distance between the frog's eyes. Is there a place around there that sells butterworms? They are high in fat and calcium and frogs seem to love them. I would also get some unflavored pedialyte and let him soak in it to get some electrolytes and energy back. I think the ratio is 1 part pedialyte to 10 parts dechlorinated water. Try the soak and then see if he will eat for you.


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    If the humidity's good I wouldn't bother wetting the paper towel. Just mist the tank a little.

    And yeah, chlorine and stuff can make a frog sick. Treating the water is important. Also, distilled water shouldn't be used.

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    Dry paper toweling will tend to stick to the frogs and pull up. Plus it will get wet anyway when they exit the water dish, so might as well dampen it a bit to begin with. I use a squeezable condiment bottle to dampen paper towels. Try to find a clear one that is food grade and BPA free.
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    I have literally only cleaned out the tank recently so next time I will consider using paper towells.

    I cannot find a good UK alternative to pedialyte. The UK version is Dioralyte but is only available in blackcurrent flavoured dissolvable sachets so no good Any other suggestion what may work for this?

    He has not touched food for a couple of days again and still remains sitting on the floor constantly a very dark colour.

    On a more positive note, I picked him up last night to inspect his belly and check for redness etc, and he jumped really far from my hands back in the tank to near the top which must be a good sign!

    He did however struggle to hold on for some reason and after about 20 seconds fell from near the top luckily into the water bowl to break his fall. He seemed ok from the fall but concerned that he didn't have the strength maybe to cling on

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    Quote Originally Posted by fusss View Post
    I have literally only cleaned out the tank recently so next time I will consider using paper towells.

    I cannot find a good UK alternative to pedialyte. The UK version is Dioralyte but is only available in blackcurrent flavoured dissolvable sachets so no good Any other suggestion what may work for this?

    He has not touched food for a couple of days again and still remains sitting on the floor constantly a very dark colour.

    On a more positive note, I picked him up last night to inspect his belly and check for redness etc, and he jumped really far from my hands back in the tank to near the top which must be a good sign!

    He did however struggle to hold on for some reason and after about 20 seconds fell from near the top luckily into the water bowl to break his fall. He seemed ok from the fall but concerned that he didn't have the strength maybe to cling on
    Hello,

    Dioralyte does come in unflavoured sachets as well, so could be used.

    Having said that, human salts are probably not ideal, and just as a general thing as well I would strongly recommend getting him to a vet. It sounds like your frog needs proper evaluation and possible investigations so that appropriate treatment can be given. That will give him the best chance.

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    You can make your own pedialyte since you can't find any there. Here is an old post from another member, Wesley Brouwer:

    "Pedialyte is just a commercial thing, easy to make it you're own.

    It's just a mixture of Natriumchloride (salt) and glucose (sugar) in the right dose.

    This saline/glucose solution should be 0,9%.
    You can make this by getting 1 L of warm water and put in 9 grams of Natriumchloride (just table salt is fine, as long as it doesn't contain iodine wich will be written on it when it contains iodine)
    and 9 grams of glucose (or sugar if glucose isn't readily available).
    Mix it in good, and let it settle to reach room temperature.
    Put in you're frog for about 10-15 minutes.

    It will do the same thing, only at a fraction of the costs."

    I would make the homemade pedialyte as soon as possible and soak him.

    You might need to take him to the vet. I don't want to suggest force feeding if it is MBD. When was the last time he ate?


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