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    Hi all,

    here is my new baby










    At the pet store, it was written "Cranwelli" on his fauna box, but according to me, it's an ornata. could you please help and advise ?

    I say "Ornata" because he/She has red drawings above the eyes and alos a little bit on the back and I don't see really horns....

    Thank you in advance.
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    Default Re: My new Pacman frog : cranwelli or ornata ?

    It's an ornate! Lucky you!

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    Thanks !
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    Default Re: My new Pacman frog : cranwelli or ornata ?

    Congrats on your new frog, very nice looking. And I agree that its an C. ornata.
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    Very cool looking frog.

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    Default Re: My new Pacman frog : cranwelli or ornata ?

    He's an ornate... See his false eye spots (black or brown dots), one on the back of each eye?
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    Congrats on the nice find!
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    Congratulations.

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    Default Re: My new Pacman frog : cranwelli or ornata ?

    Thanks to all.

    Some Pacman frog specialists in France think it could be a cranwelli also, because of the typical drawings on his back.

    Can cranwelli's have some red colors ? (Even a little bit as this frog)

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    Default Re: My new Pacman frog : cranwelli or ornata ?

    Still thinking that it's a ornate horned frog

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    Default Re: My new Pacman frog : cranwelli or ornata ?

    Yes I imagine that some cranwelli's could have some red and different colours, there is so many different morphs out there. But I can tell you that you have a C.Ornata 100%, as stated before the false eye spots are a dead give away.

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    Very nice looking frog. I'd love to get one some day


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    Thank you to all.

    Here She/he is in her temporary "Growth enclosure" :







    Of course there is a cover above the fauna box to avoid she/he goes away and to avoid too much stress.

    Not a big big eater. Impossible to feed with the tong, she/he is not attracted.

    Only attracted when the prey runs in the enclosure...At least, at the moment, she/he eats.

    I will keep on training her/him with the tong until success.
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    He/she's adorable!

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    Default Re: My new Pacman frog : cranwelli or ornata ?

    He is very nice looking little frog. A little observation from your second picture I noticed that may help abit with his appetite, is that probe on the back wall were you get your temp reading from? If so I would move it down abit, maybe to about the height of the edge of that container. As crazy as it sounds I bet there is a couple degrees difference, remember heat rises. It may be abit cooler for him then what is being read from on the gauge, and that couple degrees difference may speed up his metabolism and give him a little more of appetite.

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    Default Re: My new Pacman frog : cranwelli or ornata ?

    Hi Cory,
    thank you for the advice.
    In fact, the probe is on the ground of the terrarium, on the right side of the fauna box.
    But, you are right, even like this, I increased the temperature on the Thermo Control Pro 2 to 29C, because, in the fauna box, there is 1C to 3C less. Then, I get 26C to 28C in the fauna box, which is correct.
    Appetite seems ok, just the tong feeding which must be learned to the frog...
    My former cranwelli (RIP) was eating everything, with the tong or not, and with a feeding response of less than 2 seconds for each meal at each prey...
    But all frogs are different

    Here are 2 feeding videos :



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    Default Re: My new Pacman frog : cranwelli or ornata ?

    Oooooooh hes a cute little ornata! Awsome find!

    From the looks of everyones pacmans, my jiggly fatso needs a diet....

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    Default Re: My new Pacman frog : cranwelli or ornata ?

    Ya the tong feeding can be challenging, but by the looks of the second video he will come around. My guy now was very timid of the tongs when he was a baby, took about 3 weeks to get him to take a whole meal by tongs. Were as my female I use to have ate from the tongs from day one. A couple little tricks if you don't know them already is to rub the food or let it touch the the underside of his bottom lip and this usually gets a reaction. Or I know it may sound weird but I found if I touched my guys front foot with the worm/cricket he would snap at it. The actual way I got him to take food from the tongs is I would rip the back legs off the cricket then lower it in with the tongs so he could see the cricket and the tongs, I would bring the tongs right down to the substrate and point the cricket in his direction and then it go so it ran towards him and he would snatch it up every time. I started lets say 4 inches away and slowly released it closer to him each night till he finally started not waiting for me to release them and would just grab it from the tongs.

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    Yes, it will be a real challenge the tong feeding : but at least, it has appetite







    On the third picture, the width and shape of the head make me think it is a female.
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    Default Re: My new Pacman frog : cranwelli or ornata ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krispy View Post
    From the looks of everyones pacmans, my jiggly fatso needs a diet....
    Who do you mean by that? Huey?

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