My new Pacman frog : cranwelli or ornata ?

[GRABibus]

Hi all,

here is my new baby










At the pet store, it was written "Cranwelli" on his fauna box, but according to me, it's an ornata. could you please help and advise ?

I say "Ornata" because he/She has red drawings above the eyes and alos a little bit on the back and I don't see really horns....

Thank you in advance.

[Cliygh and Mia 2]

It's an ornate! Lucky you!

[GRABibus]

Thanks !

[monster]

Congrats on your new frog, very nice looking. And I agree that its an C. ornata.

[k5MOW]

Very cool looking frog.

Roger

[Heatheranne]

He's an ornate... See his false eye spots (black or brown dots), one on the back of each eye?

[Heatheranne]

Congrats on the nice find!

[k5MOW]

Congratulations.

Roger

[GRABibus]

Thanks to all.

Some Pacman frog specialists in France think it could be a cranwelli also, because of the typical drawings on his back.

Can cranwelli's have some red colors ? (Even a little bit as this frog)

[Cliygh and Mia 2]

Still thinking that it's a ornate horned frog

[monster]

Yes I imagine that some cranwelli's could have some red and different colours, there is so many different morphs out there. But I can tell you that you have a C.Ornata 100%, as stated before the false eye spots are a dead give away.

[Fat Frog]

Thanks to all.

Some Pacman frog specialists in France think it could be a cranwelli also, because of the typical drawings on his back.

Can cranwelli's have some red colors ? (Even a little bit as this frog)

Your frog is an ornate for sure.
Both green and brown cranwelli can have some red on them.

[Snappi13]

Very nice looking frog. I'd love to get one some day


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[GRABibus]

Thank you to all.

Here She/he is in her temporary "Growth enclosure" :







Of course there is a cover above the fauna box to avoid she/he goes away and to avoid too much stress.

Not a big big eater. Impossible to feed with the tong, she/he is not attracted.

Only attracted when the prey runs in the enclosure...At least, at the moment, she/he eats.

I will keep on training her/him with the tong until success.

[Cliygh and Mia 2]

He/she's adorable!

[monster]

He is very nice looking little frog. A little observation from your second picture I noticed that may help abit with his appetite, is that probe on the back wall were you get your temp reading from? If so I would move it down abit, maybe to about the height of the edge of that container. As crazy as it sounds I bet there is a couple degrees difference, remember heat rises. It may be abit cooler for him then what is being read from on the gauge, and that couple degrees difference may speed up his metabolism and give him a little more of appetite.

[GRABibus]

Hi Cory,
thank you for the advice.
In fact, the probe is on the ground of the terrarium, on the right side of the fauna box.
But, you are right, even like this, I increased the temperature on the Thermo Control Pro 2 to 29°C, because, in the fauna box, there is 1°C to 3°C less. Then, I get 26°C to 28°C in the fauna box, which is correct.
Appetite seems ok, just the tong feeding which must be learned to the frog...
My former cranwelli (RIP) was eating everything, with the tong or not, and with a feeding response of less than 2 seconds for each meal at each prey...
But all frogs are different

Here are 2 feeding videos :

[Snappi13]

Love the colors and pattern. The video was a nice addition as well


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[GRABibus]

Thank you.

Updates : a very nice green ornate

[GRABibus]

Shedding :