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    Excellent info, Crunchy. I went looking for Lamasil AT yesterday but apparently the pump action spray is no longer available All they had was the aerosol spray, which is unable to be measured for dose and contains ether, and the cream which contains different alcohols. I wound up buying Micatin (Miconazole 2%) cream but the vet said only to use it on Pole Bean. It's not likely he's going to make it so we have nothing to lose with him, the poor guy
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    Lisa, I'm doing some research, and just did a little experiment just for you. As nearly as I can tell, the pump spray version was discontinued several years ago, and the Lamisil Continuous Spray is what people are using now. I actually did several treatments on a couple of my new Clown tree frogs that I thought might be showing symptoms, prior to getting the group tested (negative). I did the ten sprays in 200 mL of water, with a 5 minute bath, as recommended, and have seen absolutely no ill effects, and these are tiny (<2 grams), delicate, sickly, wc frogs.

    The actual amount you are supposed to use is 1mL of the spray to 200mL water. As an experiment just now, I did ten sprays into a small Pyrex dish, and pulled up the resultant liquid with a 1mL syringe. It turned out to be a little bit over 1mL.

    Please remember that whatever is in the spray, it is being diluted by 200 to 1. The recommendations that I've seen is that the cream not be used, as it can block the skin of the frog from being able to exchange gases or regulate fluids (since the skin is permeable).

    I would strongly advise going ahead with the Lamisil AT spray, spraying it out into a container, and then using a syringe to measure out 1 mL (or you might want to do 2mL in 400mL water for a large frog like a White's). The only other suggestion that I've seen is that you let the solution sit for 5 minutes to let some of the inactive ingredients dissipate.

    Here are a couple of threads that I found that may ease your mind.

    http://www.dendroboard.com/forum/gen...l-aerosol.html

    http://talkto.thefrog.org/index.php?...20269&page=0#1

    I'll try to find more links to post later.
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    Holy guano... this is one of the most terrifying ailments in the trade i think ive ever seen

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