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    Ive been in the market for a Pyxicephalus adspersus for about a year now but couldn't justify the $35 shipping cost for a $25 dollar frog. As luck would have it they had one at Petco last night so I snatched it up before it was sold to someone else. The question is, is it a Adspersus or Edulis? It looks like a Adspersus to me but I would like a second or third opinion from some of the more experienced keepers here. Here are a couple of pics of Lunch Box. Its about 2" in the pics. So what do you guys think Adspersus or Edulis?

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    Looks like an edulis. Large white spot on the tympanum is usually a dead giveaway, but the color aside from the dorsal stripe are a bit different. Could be another species or hybrid, but is not a adspersus. This frog also appears to have the interorbital bar that is a feature of an edulis.

    I'm no expert though.


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    Grif your the second person to say Edulis the first being a guy from another frog forum with a doctorate in wildlife biology from South Africa. Oh well I rolled the dice at Petco and lost. Luckily they have a liberal return policy so back it goes. You wouldn't happen to know of any honest dealers that have Adspersus in stock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCSean View Post
    Grif your the second person to say Edulis the first being a guy from another frog forum with a doctorate in wildlife biology from South Africa. Oh well I rolled the dice at Petco and lost. Luckily they have a liberal return policy so back it goes. You wouldn't happen to know of any honest dealers that have Adspersus in stock?
    No I do not. If you don't know what to look for when buying them it is easy to pick up the wrong species. You can always check kingsnake.com.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    No I do not. If you don't know what to look for when buying them it is easy to pick up the wrong species. You can always check kingsnake.com.

    http://www.reptilesbymack.com/giant-pixie-frog.aspx

    I've bought 4 from them over the last year. They are all adspersus. They were all in perfect shape and arrived exactly when they said they would. Before I say this I don't work for them or anything, but they gave me the best customer service I have ever had when purchasing a live animal over the phone or internet. Of course, you get the best you will pay more. One pixie is 30.00 + 30 to overnite. It's worth it to me to get a healthy animal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuromastic View Post
    http://www.reptilesbymack.com/giant-pixie-frog.aspx

    I've bought 4 from them over the last year. They are all adspersus. They were all in perfect shape and arrived exactly when they said they would. Before I say this I don't work for them or anything, but they gave me the best customer service I have ever had when purchasing a live animal over the phone or internet. Of course, you get the best you will pay more. One pixie is 30.00 + 30 to overnite. It's worth it to me to get a healthy animal.
    That photo is a baby Giant.


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    Thanks Yuromastic I will give them a call.

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    Default Re: Adspersus or Edulis that is the question.

    Hey, I'd keep him! He's certainly not typical edulis! :-)

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    Its a highbrid edulis and something else.

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    Thanks, Grif for the spot on description. It is a edulis. Several years ago, Dr. Perry described a fourth species of African bullfrog - however it was not accepted by the scientific community. Quite recently, this species has now been recognized. Another South African scientist may have discovered a fifth species based on genetic testing. It is always exciting to hear of a new frog species

    I have kept both species and for some reason I like the edulis. You got a beautiful frog!
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    Default Re: Adspersus or Edulis that is the question.

    That's going to be one cool frog when it's older.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    Looks like an edulis. Large white spot on the tympanum is usually a dead giveaway, but the color aside from the dorsal stripe are a bit different. Could be another species or hybrid, but is not a adspersus. This frog also appears to have the interorbital bar that is a feature of an edulis.

    I'm no expert though.
    It does look sort of like a hybrid of sorts but I do know for sure that if it has 3 stripes, its an adspersus.

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