Substrate?

[Frogger27]

I am building a new vivarium and was looking at either doing Eco earth or tree fern for a substrate,which one should I do?

[Kmoonleaf]

I'd say it depends on what kind of frog you have, and what your tank is set up like. I use eco earth for my Whites Tree Frog and I like it a lot.

[Frogger27]

I want to put either a Amazon milk frog or a red eyed tree frog haven't decide which one yet,what do you think?

[Frogger00]

I want to put either a Amazon milk frog or a red eyed tree frog haven't decide which one yet,what do you think?

Amazons are pretty cool, and from my knowledge easier to keep.


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[Frogger27]

Thanks for the help I really like both but I think I'm going to go with the milk frog.

[Frogger00]

Thanks for the help I really like both but I think I'm going to go with the milk frog.

Good choice! I'm surprised they aren't more popular. I'd also suggest getting a few Amazon milks, as they like to cuddle together .


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[Frogger27]

I can't believe they arnt that popular.How many do you think I could fit in a 29 gallon tank?

[Frogger00]

I can't believe they arnt that popular.How many do you think I could fit in a 29 gallon tank?

I know right?! You can probably comfortably fit 3 frogs in a tank that size.


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[Frogger27]

Thanks for the help,do you know where I could buy 3 in the u.s?

[LilyPad]

Both of those frogs would do better with a live planted set up. I would use ABG mix, it can be ordered online at places like josh's frogs, NEHerp, Black Jungle, etc. Otherwise you can find a recipe to mix your own. I cover my substrate with leaf litter and live sheet moss to prevent any accidental ingestion. Have you considered converting the 29g to a vertical tank? You lose a lot of height doing a drainage layer and soil, and considering they're tree frogs, they like height! I had my 2 red eyes in a 20g high at first, it was not enough space/height for them to move about comfortably. They are now in a 24" tall tank and are thriving. Also, make sure to quarantine any new frogs you get.

[Frogger27]

I was planning on doing a live planted tank. I Also was thinking about doing hydro balls then eco earth and then some coco husk,and moss. Some moss. I was planing on doing a water fall with a like damp section. I already ordered those, why is abg mix better?

[LilyPad]

Abg provides your plants with the necessary nutrients and drainage. Coco husk would be bad on top because accidental ingestion would likely lead to impaction and/or prolapse. You could use those materials to make your own abg mix though. If you do a search, you should be able to find a recipe. How were you planning to do a waterfall? Stand alone or through the substrate/drainage layer? You don't want boggy substrate, it's a breeding ground for bacteria.

[Frogger27]

I was planning on putting my pump order some like gravel/rocks and then put a little moss on that and have a tiny bit of standing water but mainly have like a drip to trickle flowing. And also could I private message you or do something so I could ask you a few more questions?

[LilyPad]

You can PM me. You will want to do a false bottom with a defined water area though. With that size tank, it would just bog it all up.

I highly recommend reading through the links on this thread - http://www.frogforum.net/showthread.php?t=32167 - It will answer a lot of questions and save us from having to retype it all out again lol.

[Frogger27]

When I click on those they just say domain error, that's why I'm asking people now.