Over weight wtf

[Snappi13]

So I've had my two adult females on a diet now for a few months. They don't seem to be losing any weight and I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions? I'm currently feeding them each 4-5 med/lg crickets dusted off and on every 3 to 4 days


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[elly]

Maybe cut it down to three crickets?

[Snappi13]

Ok I just don't want to starve my frogs. What is a normal amount of crickets to feed and how often?


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[elly]

There's no one clear answer, I think it depends on the weight of the frog, larger frogs need more food to maintain body weight. My small male frogs get 2 large crickets every 2-3 days, but that's a little low so I'm upping it to 2-3 crickets.

[Snappi13]

Ok thanks. I think my two adult females are pretty big. Probably about 3 and 1/4 inches long. I've been trying to feed them separately in alt containers to monitor how much there getting each. I will cut down how many crickets are fed and see what happens. I expect this will take some time to see a difference in weight.


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[irThumper]

Pics would help of course (darn glitch, I know) but if you don't see a big ol fat wrinkle coming down over the ear drum and eyes they might be gravid/eggy. Not hard for these guys to get portly too though. Offer plenty of things for them to climb on to help them exercise too, if they will, lol.

[Snappi13]

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[Cliygh and Mia 2]

Yeah, I would switch to nightcrawlers and only feed two each twice a week

[elly]

The fold looks okay but maybe it's just the way the frog's turned. I'm going to say there's a chance they might be eggy.

[irThumper]

I agree with Elly, I don't see a lot of fat around the head, and there seems to be some definition down along the sides from the spine area. I'm not sure exactly how the metabolism acts in a frog, but I know when people go on severe diets it takes longer to lose weight because their body goes into "preservation mode" and tends to hang onto fat. I'd feed four crickets each every couple days and try to alternate with other foods if they will take them. Be very careful where you source your feeders as I've heard earthworms can carry internal parasites that can be passed on to frogs. Butter worms and wax worms can be given, 1 or 2 each once or twice a week (in place of crickets on that day) but go sparingly due to fat content.

[Snappi13]

Ok I cut down the crickets a few months back. They each get fed every 3 days 4 crickets. I'm hesitant to buy night crawlers due to parasites but maybe I'll look into ordering them online. I usually can only feed Houdini wax worms because pickles doesn't like them. She wipes them off her tongue lol. When you guys say eggy what does that mean exactly?


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[Snappi13]

I just want to have the healthiest frogs I can so any and all input is much appreciated.


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[Cliygh and Mia 2]

By "eggy" that means that they are in breeding season, and if you have a male and a large amount of water, (and proper conditioning) they will likely breed

[Snappi13]

Thanks for the info. Both of my whites are full grown with no thumb pads and they never call more than a squawk here and there. They both have looked like that for quite some time. it wasn't until I discovered frog forum, that I figured out they were a bit pudgy [emoji196]. So I'm wondering if it's even possible that I have any males.? And I also do not have a large amount of water. I have 3 different soaking dishes but are sort of small.


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[irThumper]

Sounds (and looks like) like they are both girls to me! :P

[Snappi13]

Thanks. Is it possible for them to just carry there weight in the mid section? As opposed to being eggy?


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[elly]

Could be. Now that I think about it many of the female frogs I've seen have more weight in their stomachs than head/ neck area. Maybe you'd do well to keep them on a slight diet a little longer at least.

Did the frogs get exposed to a cold period for any length of time? I think that's what it takes for them to develop eggs. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong.)

[Snappi13]

No. My fiancé and I have heat included in our apartment and had the heat cranked all winter. I'm going to keep them on a diet for a while and see what happens. Other than that the frogs are very active at night and wait for lights out. Houdini is often seen perched on her favorite spot on the ramp I have in there resting on my pvc hide minutes after lights go off. There's also plenty of plant cover, 3 water dishes, a vine, and rock shelf.


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