Do my little guys look sick?

[ShadyJ]

Hi guys, fist time poster first time frog owner.

Just some info about my setup

60cm L/H by 35cm W
Coca Fiber Substrate
Sphagnum Moss
Housed with one Peron's (they get along very well)
Random assortment of branches and plastic plants.
Fresh clean bottled spring water daily
25W UVB 2.0 Exo Terra Bulb


When bought my little guys they were quite lean but after a few nights of feeding they have blown up and im not sure if this is normal, i know when they shed they tend to bloat as the proccess begins but im not too sure

I have been putting about 20 crickets in nightly dusted with powder.

Im not sure if im over feeding them because ive read in a few places that you should feed babys as much as they want.

Heres the pic, like i said its my first time owning frogs and im not sure if this is normal or not.

Thank in advance for the help.

[flybyferns]

Hello,

They can accidently ingest the sphagnum moss.
It would be best to remove ALL of it. ASAP !

Now, I'm not saying all four frogs ingested moss.
I suppose there's a very, slight possibility , but unlikely.

I see four overfed fatties

Skip a night and let them digest.
Maintain proper temperature settings as this will aid in their digestion.
Keep their water clean, clean, clean ( a common problem when there are 4 together)
( MUST use de-chlorinated water )
You don't have to dust the crick every night.
Three time a week is plenty , as long as you know each frog is getting their share of supplemented feeders.

How old are they ?

What temp is the tank?

What water has been in the soaking dish?
( if it has not been de-chlorinated - change asap)

There are lots of experienced members here who keep whites.... someone will chime in to help

[ShadyJ]

Hi Lynn, thanks for the response

How old are they ?
Im not sure, i bought them as babies as you see in the pic.

What temp is the tank?
Its been raining hard here for 3 days staright and the lowest it got was 19c at night and 23c in the day up to 25c

Right now its 22.5c

What water has been in the soaking dish?
Its fresh bottled spring water, not tap water.

I change the water daily when i wake up while they sleep, i will take your advice right now and remove the moss.

[Krispy]

X2 for a temporary diet lmao. Little fatties... the wife and i argue weight all the time(we have lard-o red eyes). Maybe skip a 2nd night too, so they can move about and hunt(induce poopies as well) a bit. Thwy look good though. Lmao for a second there the big brown one with his back turned looked like a rock lmao.

Beautiful babies, must admit im slightly jelly of you whites owners....

[ShadyJ]

LOL

Thanks guys, the only thing that concerns me is that when i dump some crickets in there im not sure whos eating more or whos not eating at all.

The dude with his back turned is a garbage guts lol

[elly]

If any of the frogs want to come out and aren't disturbed by sitting on your hand you could put them in a bucket and let them eat one by one. Or you could try tong feeding.

I'm not sure about bottled spring water, it varies. Stuff that is safe for humans to drink might not be safe for frogs. I don't know if it has chlorine, maybe ask someone more knowledgeable?

And yeah, I suggest skipping a day in between feedings.

[ShadyJ]

Would u guys recommend a heat mat also? if so what wattage?

[elly]

Only if you have trouble heating the terrarium. I don't know what wattage to recommend, but I would put in on the side and away from any water. If you put it on the bottom the substrate would prevent it from heating efficiently.

If you don't have anything else to heat with, I'd suggest a heat lamp.

[ShadyJ]

It never drops below 18cb (64.4F) and gets up to 25c (77F) on a warm day.

That should be fine?

[elly]

The frog forum caresheet is down right now, but the other care sheet I read said that 18cb (mid-60'sF) should be okay, although with smaller frogs you'd want it slightly higher than that. The highest the temp should go is the mid 80Fs, so your temps look fine.

[ShadyJ]

Thanks for the info guys.

I'll keep you all updated on my little guys.