Grey tree frog seizing? Mouth opens...help please

[DigitalPunk]

WWWhat you are describing sounds like shedding to me. They will suck in their stomach and puff it out while opening their mouth like a yawn. They open their mouth like that because they are swallowing the skin they are shedding.

As for her activity level I can not say and I can't say for certain she is shedding that is just what it sounds like based off your descripton.

Do you dust her food with Supplements?

[LilyPad]

I have a video of shedding but not sure where it is. If you look for "tree frog shedding" on youtube though, you should be able to find one to compare. That's what it sounds like to me. My other thoughts would be a calcium deficiency, but look up the shedding videos first.

[elly]

I would probably not do the mineral oil. Also I second Lilypad's suggestion to look up shedding videos and see if the behavior matches.

[jlara75]

Thank you, thank you, thank you! I googled, and this is EXACTLY what I witnessed. Now my question becomes: How often does this happen??

Paul, I do not currently give calcium supplementation. I was told (and this may be erroneous) that if I feed the crickets the orange cube, that she will not need additional calcium. If this is incorrect, I'd like to change my ways.

Also, I have another question and please don't laugh. If I have a female and there is no male around, and she doesn't hibernate, will she still produce eggs internally while "waiting" for the male to come along? Would I be able to see her increase in size with the production of 2000+ eggs internally? I've read they breakdown and are reabsorbed if not laid and fertilized. Just curious about the stages of her life/year cycle. Again, thanks for all your help. I took her to a vet over the weekend, and sadly I knew more than the vet did about frogs...which isn't saying much since I'd never heard of shedding.

[Cliygh and Mia 2]

I believe they shed once a month, so if you know exactly what day he/she sheds, you can have a pretty accurate representation of when he sheds

[LilyPad]

Thank you, thank you, thank you! I googled, and this is EXACTLY what I witnessed. Now my question becomes: How often does this happen??

Paul, I do not currently give calcium supplementation. I was told (and this may be erroneous) that if I feed the crickets the orange cube, that she will not need additional calcium. If this is incorrect, I'd like to change my ways.

Also, I have another question and please don't laugh. If I have a female and there is no male around, and she doesn't hibernate, will she still produce eggs internally while "waiting" for the male to come along? Would I be able to see her increase in size with the production of 2000+ eggs internally? I've read they breakdown and are reabsorbed if not laid and fertilized. Just curious about the stages of her life/year cycle. Again, thanks for all your help. I took her to a vet over the weekend, and sadly I knew more than the vet did about frogs...which isn't saying much since I'd never heard of shedding.

I can't say I pay attention to how often my frogs shed, so I can't really help answer that one.

The orange cube will not be enough. Get a powdered supplement like "rep-cal" and also a vitamin supplement. There is a good dusting schedule somewhere on the forum that I will look up for you in a second.

The great thing about greys, if you don't put them through a hibernation cycle, they shouldn't become gravid (full of eggs.) So if you have a female, there should not be much concern there unless you pulled her from the wild after she already went through the season. If so, you may want to release her so that she can lay her eggs and produce lots of little baby greys. In a couple of months, you can scoop one of those up or even raise some tadpoles from a local pond.

[DigitalPunk]

I care for strictly dart frogs at the moment, but when I had Red Eye tree frogs I would dust the crickets at every feeding with a Calcium with D3 supplement (I used Rep-Cal). I also used a vitamin supplement on 1 feeding a week instead of the Calcium.

How often they shed --- I never paid close enough attention to be able to answer. They will shed as often as they like I suppose lol. Nothing to worry about

For my Darts I have a bit more involved supplementation schedule that is probably to over the top, but I like it lol.

[Cliygh and Mia 2]

Oh, and I believe that they shed more when they are growing, so is it an adult or no?

[Wulf]

I've kept grays for years, currently have a female eastern, male and female cope's. I know it's old news, but I'm nocturnal like a lot of frogs, their terrarium is right beside my desk, so they keep me company, and entertained. When they have eaten regularly and well, I've seen them shed only days apart. The adult female, every week or two. They breathe, drink and thermo-regulate through their skin, so I imagine they shed to keep it fresh, permeable, repair scratches etc, as much as they do because they are growing. But this is just my observations.

[jlara75]

Amy (Lilypad), I did get her from the wild. I know this is not recommended. She was never intended to stay our pet, but she was so wonderful from the get-go that my girls (toddlers) fell in love with her and she stayed all winter. It was around July that I brought her home, and she was smaller than she is now. I believe she was probably at least a year old, as I cannot imagine she would have reached that size in her first year. She has grown during the year (nearly) that we have had her.

My girls are toddlers and I love their enthusiasm for caring for their frog. I could not take that from them this year to release her. Secretly I'm hoping they continue with this passion and become herpetologists or something along those lines. But...it's too early for them to determine what lies ahead of them.

My oldest (5 yrs) brought home two cricket frogs in April. We have house them in another tank, separate from the grey. One of them is definitely male and calls every morning and evening. I'm wondering if the other is female. I've tried talking her into letting them go immediately, but for now she's settled on observing them for a few weeks. She feeds them diligently and gives fresh water. I'm wondering if we won't see eggs out of this pair.

Please don't be harsh on me for encouraging this, even though I know leaving our grey in the wild (and the cricket frogs) is what's best. I love that my girls care so much about frogs. They truly are their favorite creatures. I believe they have learned an enormous amount of responsibility in caring for the grey through the winter. This is ultimately a gift in itself.