Pacman Frog Bloated!

[monster]

hi, I know someone else with a lot more experience is looking at this thread and hopefully they put there input in on what they think is wrong but for the time being your temps are way to low. If these guys were babies when you got them those temps have to go up to about 82f during the day with a couple degree drop at night. keeping them this cold could be deadly and if not that there internal organs will start to shut down. And if his kidneys shut down it will cause him to bloat. And goldfish are not good, they carry parasites and stuff that can be passed on to your frog.

[DVirginiana]

As has already been mentioned, the frogs need to be kept 80-82 degrees daytime and 75-80 degrees at night. As for water, only spring water or water that has been treated with something like Seachem Prime or a similar water conditioner (like you use for fish). Goldfish are a poor food source. In addition to carrying parasites and such that can be passed to your frogs, they have thiaminase in them which can cause serious neurological problems and even death. You need to switch to either crickets, dubia roaches, or nightcrawlers ASAP.
You can put 5-6 drops of honey in lukewarm TREATED water no deeper than the frog's chin and soak him in it for a bit to reduce the bloating.

[Summer Keller]

As has already been mentioned, the frogs need to be kept 80-82 degrees daytime and 75-80 degrees at night. As for water, only spring water or water that has been treated with something like Seachem Prime or a similar water conditioner (like you use for fish). Goldfish are a poor food source. In addition to carrying parasites and such that can be passed to your frogs, they have thiaminase in them which can cause serious neurological problems and even death. You need to switch to either crickets, dubia roaches, or nightcrawlers ASAP.
You can put 5-6 drops of honey in lukewarm TREATED water no deeper than the frog's chin and soak him in it for a bit to reduce the bloating.

Will do the honey bath right now! I replied to monster about the temperature and food situation. Thank you for your guys' help!

[LilyPad]

I would try night crawlers, they're cheap and easy to get. Just make sure they're undyed and not red wigglers. Just keep pushing them and crickets, they'll eat them. You really need to get the temps up though, that's the most important. Then you'll probably want to test the fecals for parasites after feeding goldfish. I would avoid the pinkie mice until they're bigger and also have the proper temperature to digest them. Also, pinkie mice should be a rare treat, not a big part of their diet.

[Summer Keller]

I finally was able to charge my tablet to take pictures this is my green frog. I'm giving him a honey bath right now.

Link to my green pacman
http://oi61.tinypic.com/2liif80.jpg
http://oi62.tinypic.com/oggymw.jpg

[Summer Keller]

I would try night crawlers, they're cheap and easy to get. Just make sure they're undyed and not red wigglers. Just keep pushing them and crickets, they'll eat them. You really need to get the temps up though, that's the most important. Then you'll probably want to test the fecals for parasites after feeding goldfish. I would avoid the pinkie mice until they're bigger and also have the proper temperature to digest them. Also, pinkie mice should be a rare treat, not a big part of their diet.

OK I'll try that thank you!

[Summer Keller]

As has already been mentioned, the frogs need to be kept 80-82 degrees daytime and 75-80 degrees at night. As for water, only spring water or water that has been treated with something like Seachem Prime or a similar water conditioner (like you use for fish). Goldfish are a poor food source. In addition to carrying parasites and such that can be passed to your frogs, they have thiaminase in them which can cause serious neurological problems and even death. You need to switch to either crickets, dubia roaches, or nightcrawlers ASAP.
You can put 5-6 drops of honey in lukewarm TREATED water no deeper than the frog's chin and soak him in it for a bit to reduce the bloating.

I've had him in the honey bath for about 10-15 minutes he is still bloated how much longer should I leave him in?

[DVirginiana]

The honey bath should be 15-20 minutes. Usually they will pee while in the bath.

[Summer Keller]

The honey bath should be 15-20 minutes. Usually they will pee while in the bath.

i left him in for about 30 minutes. He didnt pee at all still bloated. I got crickets and roaches. My brown pacman (he originally was the one bloated but he goes up and down now he is back to normal size) he eats perfectly fine even when he was bloated. My green frog ate up until the bloat. My yellow frog won't eat at all as well as the green. I even went to petco and got some "ready to eat" bites (it smells very sweet) the brown frog ate a couple pieces the green and yellow won't eat those either. The yellow frog is now loosing a lot of weight. I went and got a bigger heater (which I have to put on the outside of my tank not under it) the temperature is up to 78f and still climbing but thats just the internal temperature the bedding is slightly cool (not cold just cool) they still won't eat and the green one is still bloated.

[Summer Keller]

): My Babies.
http://i58.tinypic.com/1zp47io.jpg

[monster]

Hi, im thinking you may need to take these 2 frogs to a vet if the honey and the salt bath isn't working. And I know you said the brown one bloats but it will go away but in IMO I would get them both checked. For the one that is bloated all the time I think he is going to need one for sure. When you got frogs did you ever get fecal tests done for them? And the one that that is swollen all the time does he feel hard or soft and squishy when you pick him up? The one thing I noticed in your pictures that may not be helping is your substrate is way to wet, when you squeeze the substrate in your hand you want it clump and feel damp but not have water dripping. If they feel dehydrated or feel the need to go the water bowl they will. And if you got them at Christmas they may feel the crickets are not a big enough meal anymore, I had a pacman frog that this happened to. Keep trying the night crawlers, try to rub the worm under his chin and he may take it. Or another trick I find is to touch his front foot with it, this one I find works good.

[Summer Keller]

hi, I know someone else with a lot more experience is looking at this thread and hopefully they put there input in on what they think is wrong but for the time being your temps are way to low. If these guys were babies when you got them those temps have to go up to about 82f during the day with a couple degree drop at night. keeping them this cold could be deadly and if not that there internal organs will start to shut down. And if his kidneys shut down it will cause him to bloat. And goldfish are not good, they carry parasites and stuff that can be passed on to your frog.

I bought them a heating pad off eBay. It was small (I wanted large) so that is why the temperature is so low (the heating pad isn't large enough for the tank size). I am waiting for the large one to come now! The brown frog is now bloated again! I was told that frozen pinky mice are good? I was going to try that. The only reason I have not tried the roaches is because I am illergic to them! My frogs refuse to eat crickets. But I will try again. How main should they eat at a time?