Thanks guys. We are applying for an educational study liscense. Also maybe the optional one that will let us get a table at expos! Bwa ha ha. Have a few breeders to vouch for us. So, all thats left if my ultimate question... "With you guys changing exotic pet laws all the time, how the f do i get an exotic owner permit?" Call here call there call the local police, restart circle.... How much dookie is that???????????? So, a trip to our local game commission and dcnr offices are in order. The lady in harrisburg, while trained to be evasive, started me in the right direction after my 3rd call back... Its not like i want a grizzly bear, tiger, and a wolf.... i just want my darn reptiles and amphibians without being bothered. If they want to see my setups and request monthly paperwork, and $25 monthly fee, then, so be it, its worth it. Its also a step for the wife to have her dream career....