75 Gallon Vivarium build

[Larry Wardog]

This video I get to show off the plants and the native insects in this enclosure. There is a part where you can see crickets and Woodlice in a part. many of my Woodlice are young so you can't see them on camera yet, but they are getting bigger. Spot shows you over and over that no cricket is out of his reach and King II has imo the most violent part in the video. He pulls an Earthworm from being wrapped around the Periwinkle. Checkout the link above! Another video coming with the new Toad (assuming she can behave) soon!


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Photos of the Woods and introducing Vinca the Female American Toad (3rd picture)

[Larry Wardog]

https://vimeo.com/179980120
Vinca is officially staying. She has calmed down and so has Spot. Excited that I have 3 now!


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[Larry Wardog]

She is the smallest animal in this habitat, but she is not intimidated by Spot. She lives in the moss hut, which, Spot always goes in. He was watching her for days literally looking right at her, but she didn't move so he came in and sat right next to her. There are 3 hides in the tank btw, and Vinca didn't move. So now I got my wish, she is a dominant toad. Because they are a different species (frog and toad) I don't think that having one dominant of each is bad. It makes for a very interesting time when feeding. Hopefully the female leopard frog will be calm and relaxed like the last female and like King II


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[Larry Wardog]

I see this when I turn the light on



King put his hand on Spot.

Friends


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[foreverfrogging]

Hi, just wondering why you are housing separate species together? Even if they are wild caught? That's actually quite stressful for frogs and can cause illness. I'm all for catching frogs, but maybe consider separating them.


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[foreverfrogging]

Is it legal for you to catch leopard frogs? They are endangered.


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[Larry Wardog]

These Amphibs take the same temp, humidity, lighting, grow the same sizes, are from the same climate, and were researched for years before doing this. Others who are very well educated in both species do not have an issue with this and if you check the whole thread, many members who are more knowledgeable overall love this tank and support it. This is an all natural setup and is big enough with specific design for both species. The Leopard Frog was bought fyi, they are not legal to catch so I did the correct measure and bought him. This is not an uneducated experiment, this was well thought out and executed. This has never been a hostile thread, but if you do not support this tank, please keep scrolling because this is a tank that many people get excited to see and I love it that others have embraced this build. Biologist and expert herpers were contacted before starting this. I hope this answered your question with all respect and unhostile.


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[foreverfrogging]

I'm sorry if I came across as hostile. Your tank is beautiful and very spacious. Glad to hear the leopard was bought! I tried to find more info on the thread before posting but couldn't find my answers so thanks for informing me. Although I am new to the forum I've been involved with frogs for quite some time now so I am knowledgeable. The reason I was concerned with different species is that I have seen frogs go downhill so fast from stress of another species and I wouldn't want that to happen. But I have seen success with two species as well so I look forward to seeing how your two make out. Again sorry for coming across the wrong way and thanks for doing so much research, we need more of that in the world of herps! [emoji6]


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[Larry Wardog]

I'm sorry if I came across as hostile. Your tank is beautiful and very spacious. Glad to hear the leopard was bought! I tried to find more info on the thread before posting but couldn't find my answers so thanks for informing me. Although I am new to the forum I've been involved with frogs for quite some time now so I am knowledgeable. The reason I was concerned with different species is that I have seen frogs go downhill so fast from stress of another species and I wouldn't want that to happen. But I have seen success with two species as well so I look forward to seeing how your two make out. Again sorry for coming across the wrong way and thanks for doing so much research, we need more of that in the world of herps! [emoji6]


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Thank you for the kind words, I just wanted to be as specific as I could answering because I know the risks doing this. If I didn't add a new toad there would be no problems with stress because of how calm the older toad is, he was actually calming the leopard frog down. The two in the picture above have been together for over a year. Once the new toad settles in completely and the leopard frog gets used to it, the tank will be back to normal. Thanks for checking this out! I will be keeping this up to date as possible so you can check back at any time. [emoji3]


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[Larry Wardog]

Big news:
Tonight I got to watch for the first time Vinca the new female eat and hunt crickets. She is a dominant predator. Vinca and Spot seem to be testing each other. It's very clear they will run the tank. You will see in the next video that those two are right next to each other for everything. More on that later, the other headline is I disbanded "The Other Guys" in the other enclosure. I was going to get rid of the young male American Toad, but I figured instead of a different species, I just added this toad. He has been in my possession for 2 months and is as tame as King II. So it will be 3 American Toads and
2 Northern Leopard Frogs in this enclosure. I'm hoping it's not overcrowded with 5. I know hunting will not really be a thing in this tank anymore because there will be so many hungry Amphibs, it will be like watching a war with an army of Frogs and Toads vs a swarm of feeder insects. The male toad was named tonight also. So I have 2 new additions to the tank in 2 weeks. Vinca the female and LT the new to the tank male toad. They are around the same age and I saved them from death so it's a win-win situation. I will try to get LT in this next video coming soon.


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[KMAC]

Frogs can be mixed, however for the general keeper its not recommended as you say.

But if you do a bit of study in ecology side (environment), biological (toxidity, cross contamination etc) and they are from the same area you can pull it off and infact create a more natural environment. Larry is not your average pet keeper (we dont even know if he is infact human yet ha ha) and seems to study the WC more than keeping as pets.

But as I say you cant just go mixing even if they dwell the same trees etc without doing your homework, which Larry does.

[Larry Wardog]

Frogs can be mixed, however for the general keeper its not recommended as you say.

But if you do a bit of study in ecology side (environment), biological (toxidity, cross contamination etc) and they are from the same area you can pull it off and infact create a more natural environment. Larry is not your average pet keeper (we dont even know if he is infact human yet ha ha) and seems to study the WC more than keeping as pets.

But as I say you cant just go mixing even if they dwell the same trees etc without doing your homework, which Larry does.

This just made my day haha


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[Larry Wardog]

My army of Toads

Spot, King II, and Vinca

LT

Vinca

King II

LT


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[KMAC]

Is the light in pic 1 for moon effect?

[Larry Wardog]

Is the light in pic 1 for moon effect?

The blue light is a built in LED light in my lighting system that represents moon light. Yes you are correct and the animals believe it is the moon. It's very cool and it lights the tank up enough to see almost everything. They are all okay with being watched.


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[KMAC]

I was kinda looking at the pic on a Sunday daze and thinking thats what it must be for

[Larry Wardog]

I was kinda looking at the pic on a Sunday daze and thinking thats what it must be for

I will be making a video of that sometime as well.


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[Larry Wardog]

It looks like King II likes Vinca. Maybe more than what I thought he would.

This was taken over the course of days.
LT is not a part of the group. He does his own thing.


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[Larry Wardog]

More tonight as well!


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[Cliygh and Mia 2]

Beautiful, it's coming along nicely! Do you think they will attempt to breed after hibernation? It'd be cool to see if they try to