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    @SethD:
    50% humidity comming from a zoomed humidity reader tends to be actually damper than what it says. You can even touch the ground, lift your hand up and your hand will feel moist. Again from my personal experience my humidity reader always reads 50percent when its higher, and the lower the humidity the lower it goes. Its a fail humidity reader but I havent found a better one yet.

    Taming toads? Toads in captivity can be skittish in my opinion. I have gone to petstores and asked to hold one and when they guy reaches in the toad jumps franctically into the wall and slams his head in. So with alot of frogs. Only toads Ived personally seen havent been that frightened are common american toads, firebellied toads(not true toads), sonoran desert toads, oak toads. You say its a toad not a puppy. I agree, it IS a toad. So lets start treating a toad like a toad. Rather than if its a puppy. In reality you shouldnt hold most amphibians because the salts in your skins, and all the other substances in it can do harm to the amphibian. But in reality we chose to handle them still, of course we wash our hands and keep em wet. But still, in reality a toad isnt a "tame" pet. Its not going to do tricks for you, sit, or anything else of the sort.

    Just because YOU havent seen a 9inch-12inch cane toad from puertorico doesnt mean I havent. Theres more than enough meals for a cane toad to grow that large in puertorico, with all the roaches, and insects crawling around in evey nook and cranny. Not to mention the humidity in puertorico is quite high, as are the temperatures. Like I just said, just because YOU havent doesnt mean I havent. Its your personal opinion I respect that, but I know what I saw.


    In my opinion, a cane toad needs as much temperatures as it needs heat. Cane toads thrive in very warm climates, moist climates. But being told by a friend that making it overly moist can lead to fungus infection I tried not to make it as moist as I had it. This is more of personal experiences.

    4inches of earth worked for me(my personal experience). Not saying 2inches of dirt or no dirt is bad. But why not give it some dirt if you can? I mean its not going to hurt it certainly. It would actually do some good to it if it wanted to dig down to the deepest part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deku View Post
    @SethD:
    50% humidity comming from a zoomed humidity reader tends to be actually damper than what it says. You can even touch the ground, lift your hand up and your hand will feel moist. Again from my personal experience my humidity reader always reads 50percent when its higher, and the lower the humidity the lower it goes. Its a fail humidity reader but I havent found a better one yet.

    LOL. In other words your saying that you know you have a poor humidity gage that doesn't work yet in spite of that you recommend readings you get from it even though you know the readings are wrong. Don't you think that is just a bit confusing?


    Just because YOU havent seen a 9inch-12inch cane toad from puertorico doesnt mean I havent. Theres more than enough meals for a cane toad to grow that large in puertorico, with all the roaches, and insects crawling around in evey nook and cranny. Not to mention the humidity in puertorico is quite high, as are the temperatures. Like I just said, just because YOU havent doesnt mean I havent. Its your personal opinion I respect that, but I know what I saw.
    First, how big a cane will get has a lot to do with genetics, no matter how much you feed a florida cane it will not reach the size some Suriname canes can reach. I doubt the puerto rico canes are capable of reaching the size you say they reach.

    You may "know" you have seen 12 in. canes there but I also know fellow texans that "know" they have seen 20 ft. alligators and "black panthers". Some of these people are normally reasonable outdoorsmen too but you can't convince them they didn't actually see what they thought they saw. I know that their 20 ft alligators are more like 12-13ft and their "black panthers" are misidentifications of various things but they won't believe that for anything. I strongly suspect the 12in. canes you have seen over there would shrink down to around 8 inches give or take perhaps a half inch at the most if placed next to a tape measure. Tell you what though, since you say your going back there this summer take a pic of the largest one you can find next to a tape measure and post it here. If I can see that it is anywhere near 12 inches I will be happy to apologize for doubting you. If you can find one that honestly measures even the 9 inches you say is the norm I will be surprised and if you can find one over 10 inches or anywhere near the twelve inches you say the larger ones reach over there I will be EXTREMELY surprised and will place a little more faith in your observations. At the moment I am pretty skeptical.

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    Ok Seth believe what you want. I don't have to prove anything to you. If I find one of these toads where Iam staying Ill take a picture of it.

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    Seth and Kevin, we appreciate constructive conversation and healthy disagreement on this forum. This is not it. Move on, both of you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Seth and Kevin, we appreciate constructive conversation and healthy disagreement on this forum. This is not it. Move on, both of you.
    I totally agree. I will move on.

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