is my fire belly okay?

[jasonm96]

hey there. i got this frog a few weeks ago and it was a little chubby when i got it but i think it's looking pretty big now and i'm kinda worried. i'm wondering if you guys know what it could be. i've been worring if it's dropsy, bloated or just needing a diet. any help would be much appreciated, thanks!

won't let me upload the pic of him, so uploaded it to this website, hopefully it works.
View image: fbt

[Frogman1031]

Hello and welcome to frog forum !

Has the frog been pooping? When was the last time you saw poop?
It could be that it might be a female with eggs.
Please answer the "Trouble in the Enclosure" questions. I will post them in a minute
edit: here are those questions
QUESTIONS

1----what 'kind' of frog is it ( what species)
2----please include a photo of the frog
3----Please include a photo of the frog's current enclosure
4----size of enclosure ( W" x D" x H" )
5----# on inhabitants - ( if there is another frog --- is there a size difference ? )
6----has or was the frog kept with a different species or with any other tank mate
7----is there a new tank mate----was the new tank mate quarantined
8----what is the typical humidity level
9----what temperature is maintained
10---what is, specifically, being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure
11---describe the enclosure lighting ( very specifically)
12---describe enclosure maintenance ( water changes, cleaning etc)
13---what kind of water is used
-----for misting
-----for the frog's soaking dish
-----is de-chlorinator used / what brand
14---material(s) used for substrate - be very specific
15---enclosure set up:
-----if recent - describe how the enclosure was cleaned
-----plants( live or artificial) if artificial plants are used are they plastic or fabric
-----describe wood, bark , and background materials
16---when is the last time the frog ate
17---have you found poop lately
18---how often is the frog fed
19---what size feeder is given
20---what other feeders are used as treats
21---what is the frog's main food source
22---do feeders roam free in the enclosure or is the frog bowl fed
23---vitamins - what brand and how often
24---calcium - what brand and how often
25---was the frog without calcium for any period of time
26---approximate age of the frog
27---how long have you owned the frog
28---who cared for the frog before you
29---is the frog wild caught or captive bred
30---how often the frog is handled -- are gloves used ( what kind of gloves)
31---is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area
30---has or was the frog properly quarantined (yes or no)
-----for how long
32---has the frog been treated with any medication:
-----for what
-----name of medication
-----for how long
-----what dose
-----was medication prescribed by a herp vet

[jasonm96]

thanks for your reply! i haven't been able to catch him/her poop because she hides quite a lot and i'm at work most of the day.

1----bombina orientalis
2----http://postimg.org/image/csi40m9xf/
3----temporary set up and other cage mate http://postimg.org/image/wu0dddsg1/
4----12x12x12
5----yes and it's smaller
6----1 other fire bellied toad
7----no
8----60-80
9----24C
10---habistat heat mat and thermostat
11---exo terra led day and night light
12---water changes every day and substrate every few weeks
13---i de-chlorine the water with fluval aqua plus water conditioner
14---coco husk and sphagnum
15---cleaned by beaphar deep clean and rinsed with de-chlorinated water
16---frog ate yesterday
17---not sure if it's that particular frogs
18---daily or every other day
19---small-medium crickets
20---waxworms
21---crickets
22---roam free and any left overs taking out sometime after feeding
23---komodo amphibian dusting powder twice per month
24---komodo amphibian dusting powder twice per month
25---not sure
26---not sure
27---2 weeks ago
28---pet store
29---wild caught
30---every few days when doing maintenance or health checks with marksman vinyl disposable gloves
31---low
30---not sure
32---no

[Frogman1031]

Moss is an impaction risk and can lead to blockage in the intestinal tract. Remove ASAP

You should be dusting with calcium plus vitamin d3 powder every other feeding and multivitamin powder once a week.

Do Bombina Orientalis even show up wild caught anymore? Anyway, you should have a fecal exam done on both frogs.

Recommend creating a quarantine enclosure to monitor the frog in question and to collect some poop for a fecal exam. The quarantine tank should include
-damp unprinted paper towels as substrate
-a water dish
-a place to hide

12x12x12 is tight quarters. A ten gallon long aquarium is more suitable for them.

As for the frogs abnormal size, I would say it's either eggs or the frog is fat. If the bloat gets bigger then you could try soaking the frog in lukewarm water to possibly break up any blockage in the digestive tract.

Good luck !

[jasonm96]

thanks! will follow your advice. the tank is only til next month, then i'll get an exo terra small

[Krispy]

I have a few questions for you.

Where is it from?
Have you noticed a color change?
What of substrate are you using?
How do you feed?
Im sorry i dont know how convert c to f
what kind of water setup?
how often do you change the water
Can you please post a pic of your enclosure, that would help alot.
Humidity level?
Can we see the tank mate?

Theres alot that can be wrong here. We have alot of firebellies(10 in a planted 40g breeder). Of mixed species. There are 6 actually. Because they say oriental does not mean they are true oriental. From the looks of the frog it is impaction. Or it cannot poop because it is about to shed. Firebellies are also very gassy. They also darken/dull before shedding. So that may be an issue. A view of the setup will help. Do you have access to electrolytes? A isolation tank and a warm(75-78f) electrolyte soak may get you a much needed dookie bomb. Optimal firebelly water temps are 70-74f and a little lower at night. Man i could go on forever.

[jasonm96]

most of the answers to your questions have been answered above but the temperature the first week of having it have as 66f but decided my room temp was too cold so got a heat mat, knocking it up to 75f. i think it might be shedding. it was puffing itself up earlier and i think it pooped. it's still big just now though. i'll keep it warm and humid to help it shed. thanks