LLL Reptile - My experiences

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To be honest, my opinion is always that if you cannot afford vet care, you cannot afford the hobby. I would never let my cats die a slow death without even attempting treatment, and neither would I let my frogs die a slow death without attempting treatment. You should especially be aware that wild caught animals usually definitely need vet care. The stress of captivity can allow pathogens they could normally fight off or keep at bay in the wild to take over. All of my wild caught frogs, at the very least, had fecal testing and parasite treatment. I do not believe that should be 100% on the buyer though, a company should be shipping out healthy animals to begin with. My captive bred frogs are just watched for normal fecal movements and that they're eating well.

I'm glad you know to do a bare bones qt tank, hopefully it helped out with this next round!

I would have still reported to LLL regardless of whether or not they were willing to process a refund. They should be made aware that they sent out ill animals. I'm not sure if there would be any point to it at this time though.

I'm so sorry for your loss, I would be very upset about losing every single one. That definitely shows poor quality animals that should have never been shipped out. I'm glad your new ones are doing much better.

Tong feeding, I mean out of all my tree frog species. Only one has ever been willing to take food from a tongs. That is not really that uncommon, but I gave up working with them on it long ago. Bowl feeding seems to work really well for my guys. If tong feeding works well for you, that's great too. So long as they are being fed, it's good