Do you have any updates on the last one?
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Do you have any updates on the last one?
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Hi Xavier, nothing major or conclusive unfortunately. The prescription is 0.5ml Baytril in 100ml water as a bath for 6-8 hours a day for 10 days. The first day the frog did just sit in the bath for 8 hours asleep but I've been lucky to get him to sit in it for half an hour every time I've tried since. Could be a sign he's feeling better of course, he's certainly strong enough to make bathing or not his decision! The rest of the time he just sits in the same spot never moving night or day the same as they all have done ever since I've had them. There's no sign of any poop to take for a fecal exam either.
On the plus side his physical appearance seems normal (no bloody secretion as in the photos). Still all a bit of a mystery I think!
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Had a win with this guy finally. Night before last I was giving him his Baytril bath and he started shedding behaviour so while his mouth was open I got the Panancur into him along with three locusts and four crickets all dusted with calcium and vitamins. He ate the whole lot down and rewarded me with an excellent fresh poo this morning which I can get to the vet tomorrow for an exam. He also seems stronger and actually jumped to get away from me last night for the first time ever![]()
Hi Diver, that's awesome to hear hes getting better. I have been watching the thread to see if this last guy was going to make it for ya after the lose of the others and this is great news.![]()
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I got the results of the fecal exam back and there's no parasites. I was actually hoping there would be so that a treatable issue had been been found but alas, no. It did turn up malamoeba though - a parasite of the livefood. While these are not harmful to the frogs as such, they do cause the feeders to be less nutritious as it affects their ability to absorb food. Apparently this is not uncommon in shop bought livefood though so therefore not the problem I'm looking for.
I'm going to have a further talk with the vet tomorrow to see if there are any other tests we can perform.
The frog remains in an apparently healthy state bar the continued dormancy.
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The feeder problem is treatable, just breed your own feeder, buy a roach, cricket, grasshopper, or other feeder insect colony, and breed them to have your own healthy stock
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Yes, true and I do breed my own roaches, what I meant was that apparently the malamoeba issue is common and not anything that makes frogs sick. I'm told by the guy at one of the local stores I deal with that they test their animals very frequently and these malamoebas show up sporadically and it's just an accepted thing. It's not all the time and the effects are limited to the feeders being a bit less nutritious due to reduced gut loading.
To summarise where I think I'm at with these frogs:
Bought them knowing they were wild caught and therefore possibly issues. Being completely unfamiliar with this species have tried to provide best possible conditions and confirm whether exhibited behaviour was normal or not. Evidence appeared to show stressed but otherwise healthy bar first individual which died a few days after purchase. Second fatality and symptoms of remaining individual point to sickness/disease present. Remaining individual has been treated for bacterial infection and parasites and fecal exam has confirmed no parasites present.
So, I think either there was a bacterial infection which has now cleared up due to the course of Baytril (there has been no recurrence of the nasty looking symptoms pictured above) OR there's a viral infection OR there's a fungal infection.
I'll talk to the vet tomorrow to see what tests are possible, I guess there's obviously Chytrid (but if Chytrid could he still be in relatively good shape after the three months he's been in my care?)
Any other suggestions or anything I've missed as always very welcome!
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