Giant Waxy Monkey Frog help.

[Diver]

I hope so too, it's pretty upsetting, they're such a lovely frog and they get treated badly by the natives in their home country too

I had hopes of getting them breeding over here (and I suppose all of our exotics were exported originally), but to have captive bred available would be terrific. The way things are in the wild that might be the only way that certain species will continue at all. I've started construction on a 8ft x 8ft x8ft with full environmental controls and I'm heading back over to Hamm next month with the hope of obtaining more for the project but I'm just not sure about the whole thing now.

[monster]

Sorry to hear about all the problems and deaths of your frogs. Don't let it steer you away, this will be a big learning lesson for the future. I know your vet said he didn't think parasites but don't rule it out unless he says he knows for sure. From my understanding all wild caught frogs will carry some kind of parasite or bacteria that would do nothing to them in wild or take a lot longer to kill them or make them very sick. It is when we put them into a smaller controlled environment that these parasites and stuff just explode and take over the poor frog. Again i could be wrong but im pretty sure im correct and if not totally it is something down those lines. So if you choose to get a couple more of these i would just insinuate that they had these and treat them for the basics just to be safe and put your own mind at ease. Again so sorry to hear about your loses and continuing problems, hope this guy can pull through for you.

[Diver]

Thanks Cory, I do feel now that I've come this far it would be a shame to give up on the idea of trying to breed bicolor. I suppose the problem with treating for parasites is it appears to quite specific. He said he would need a positive identification in order to prescribe the correct drug and for that fecal matter is required. These guys didn't seem to produce any until about a week ago!
I doubt I'll give up even if I lose this one, as you say it's a learning curve but it's also a bit of a gamble. Coming from the wild they can apparently have rananvirus lying dormant and much in the same way as you say about parasites, not harmful until the immune system is affected by stress. The stress of being captured and then shipped must be considerable and guess it's the moral issue that I'm wrestling with. If I were looking at them just to keep as pets then I wouldn't want to encourage the trade, but as I'm looking at a no-expense spared breeding project I feel I can justify it.
Anyway, there might not be any available at Hamm this time so I guess I can leave it up to fate!

[monster]

Ya he would need a positive fecal to determine which parasites to treat for. I get a fecal done on the first poop I see for all my frogs even if they are captive bred just to put my mind at ease. And yes stress is just brutal for frogs, I read a couple times that stress is one of the leading causes of death in captive reptiles and amphibians, it lowers there poor immune system so much. Again I hope this guy/girl makes it for ya, they are such an amazing species of frog.

[Cliygh and Mia 2]

Do you have any updates on the last one?

[Diver]

Hi Xavier, nothing major or conclusive unfortunately. The prescription is 0.5ml Baytril in 100ml water as a bath for 6-8 hours a day for 10 days. The first day the frog did just sit in the bath for 8 hours asleep but I've been lucky to get him to sit in it for half an hour every time I've tried since. Could be a sign he's feeling better of course, he's certainly strong enough to make bathing or not his decision! The rest of the time he just sits in the same spot never moving night or day the same as they all have done ever since I've had them. There's no sign of any poop to take for a fecal exam either.
On the plus side his physical appearance seems normal (no bloody secretion as in the photos). Still all a bit of a mystery I think!

[Diver]

Had a win with this guy finally. Night before last I was giving him his Baytril bath and he started shedding behaviour so while his mouth was open I got the Panancur into him along with three locusts and four crickets all dusted with calcium and vitamins. He ate the whole lot down and rewarded me with an excellent fresh poo this morning which I can get to the vet tomorrow for an exam. He also seems stronger and actually jumped to get away from me last night for the first time ever