Feeding trouble

[elly]

@Amy, yeah, I know they can survive three days, maybe a month at most, I'm just concerned that if Bonk doesn't eat well during the week or after he might have low energy and have trouble catching bugs.

I normally leave a cricket behind...which I'm sure the little frog gobbles down as soon as my back has turned. He's the greediest thing ever.

[irThumper]

I know this is a stretch but could you leave the little guy in a QT tank while you are gone? That way Bonk can have his bowl of bugs, and the little one can have his, and you know when you get back how many each has or hasn't eaten while you're gone?

[flybyferns]

Elly

Good Morning, ( I think ? ...we got another 5 " of snow here on Long Island - yuck)
I read back. It's early! Before the coffee was done I was having difficulty ......mixing elly and Eli

Seriously

I would suggest getting a new thermometer or 2.

I have never had a whites tree frog. I have had my share of Agalychnis, however.
I have a A moreletti "Boggy" who went on a hunger strike for almost 6 months.
So bad , It resulted in my becoming very proficient at force feeding.

I still believe... to this day ... that his hunger strike resulted from my moving him from a tank he shared ( yes shared ) with the red eyed tree frogs.
It was like a froggy depression? Yeah, it sound crazy. But I'm convinced.

I'm wondering if tanks were changed or did your Whites loose or change a tank mate?

Want to remind you about feeding him if you should catch him shedding.
Drop the dusted crick in when he opens his mouth.
This really does....... work like a charm.

Temps... check your thermometer (s) Perhaps get a new one?
Physiologically, they will not eat and /or eat much less if their body temp has dropped.
So, having-said-that, you need to be careful w/ force feeding if his body temp is lowered.

Have you tried warming him up? Sometimes it's so simple Like when the light won't come on.... and - then - you realize it's unplugged !

Just a few thoughts

[flybyferns]

Elly

Good Morning, ( I think ? ...we got another 5 " of snow here on Long Island - yuck)
I read back. It's early! Before the coffee was done I was having difficulty ......mixing elly and Eli

Seriously

I would suggest getting a new thermometer or 2.

I have never had a whites tree frog. I have had my share of Agalychnis, however.
I have a A moreletti "Boggy" who went on a hunger strike for almost 6 months.
So bad , It resulted in my becoming very proficient at force feeding.

I still believe... to this day ... that his hunger strike resulted from my moving him from a tank he shared ( yes shared ) with the red eyed tree frogs.
It was like a froggy depression? Yeah, it sound crazy. But I'm convinced.

I'm wondering if tanks were changed or did your Whites loose or change a tank mate?

Want to remind you about feeding him if you should catch him shedding.
Drop the dusted crick in when he opens his mouth.
This really does....... work like a charm.

Temps... check your thermometer (s) Perhaps get a new one?
Physiologically, they will not eat and /or eat much less if their body temp has dropped.
So, having-said-that, you need to be careful w/ force feeding if his body temp is lowered.

Have you tried warming him up? Sometimes it's so simple Like when the light won't come on.... and then ---- you realize it's unplugged !

Just a few thoughts

[elly]

@irThumper: Good, common sense answer! Luckily Bonk was willing to eat about four medium size dubia last night so I think he's set for the weekend. I may leave Julep in quarantine if Bonk doesn't get much next week though.

@Lynn: I wish I could send some spring your way.

Bonk hasn't lost a tank-mate, not recently. He was in a Petco tank with other frogs back in September, but he didn't show any ill effects from leaving. He's always been a little skittish. I think part of his slowness to eat comes from being tong-fed a red wriggler once. He's never trusted me since.
I will get a second thermometer. Bonk's been warming himself up by sitting on the ledge directly underneath the heat emitter so maybe the rest of the tank gets a little cold.

[irThumper]

@irThumper: Good, common sense answer! Luckily Bonk was willing to eat about four medium size dubia last night so I think he's set for the weekend. I may leave Julep in quarantine if Bonk doesn't get much next week though.

@Lynn: I wish I could send some spring your way.

Bonk hasn't lost a tank-mate, not recently. He was in a Petco tank with other frogs back in September, but he didn't show any ill effects from leaving. He's always been a little skittish. I think part of his slowness to eat comes from being tong-fed a red wriggler once. He's never trusted me since.
I will get a second thermometer. Bonk's been warming himself up by sitting on the ledge directly underneath the heat emitter so maybe the rest of the tank gets a little cold.

Good Bonk! I was going to say his heat/humidity sounds fine for a WTF. Yeah might be a good idea to divide them up over the weekend, just to even the playing field. How long have you had them in together? Had Bonk showed this behavior prior to Julep moving in with him? Lucy is only eating one or two cricks at a time when she eats, I'm sure it's the parasites making her lose her appetite so that's another idea, in case he caught something from Julep... (didn't remember if Julep was fecal tested?)

I think breeding season must have had something to do with it for Honey. What's interesting is his lack appetite seems to correspond with the same time Shirley had that bloody dump of whatever... still think it was ova. I never saw the two of them try to breed, though Honey obviously was mature enough too, and Shirley too. There just wasn't a decent place to do so. He's just changed so much since then in what he wants to eat and how he wants to eat it. Still hates his vitamins... lol.

[elly]

Before he was put in with Julep, Bonk usually wouldn't eat unless the lights were turned out. Afterwards he started being bolder, even tweezer feeding again. But now he's gone back to his old ways. (I assume he may be constipated since after the weekend he still looked plump while Julep looked a little skinnier.)

I thought Julep looked and acted too healthy to have parasites but I might have to fecal test after all.

Good luck getting yours to take their vitamins.

[irThumper]

Before he was put in with Julep, Bonk usually wouldn't eat unless the lights were turned out. Afterwards he started being bolder, even tweezer feeding again. But now he's gone back to his old ways. (I assume he may be constipated since after the weekend he still looked plump while Julep looked a little skinnier.)

I thought Julep looked and acted too healthy to have parasites but I might have to fecal test after all.

Good luck getting yours to take their vitamins.

Yup, always pays to get a fecal done when something odd is going on, just in case.

Thanks, yeah yhe's been a pill about it, but I can usually at least get a couple dusted wax worms into him before he refuses more :P