Yeah unfortunately I could only order the wipeout 1 and I had to get it from Big Als aquariums. I checked all the stores here were I live that sell reptiles and amphibians and none of them carried any of the wipe out products and they weren't even in there computers for order. Big als didn't carry it either so they ordered it for me. But now having you and Lija telling me its pretty potent I think I may cancel my order and wait till I come across the wipeout 2 and just stick with the Zilla cleaner. Im going to pick that up tomorrow when I do my food run for the froggies.