Aestivation or Gone?

[Lecroixe]

So far all I know of Aestivation is that Pacmans (and other frogs that go through Aestivation) will cover themselves in mucous to preserve water. My poor fantasy has already gone into it once, and came out of it well, but had gone back into it and I'm afraid he may have passed away this time? (Had a time once where I left for several days and instructed my family to care for the little new guy and they left the heatlamp over his tiny enclosure 24/7).

Lately it's been cold here in Cincinnati and the family doesn't really care much to turn heat on, so I've been trying to keep the heatlamp on my two pacs to maintain 75F+ but I don't think I had enough heat and my poor guy in the smaller home suffered colder temps and dryer substrate conditions. (Was definitely difficult keeping that cocofibre moist for him). So I'm thinking he could've entered brumation on his own?

I don't seem to be seeing any signs of "decomposition" but I definitely also can't see any signs of "breathing."

Can these frogs pass away while in Aestivation/Brumation? I think I read somewhere in previous Aestivation/Brumation threads prior to posting this, Lija mentioned young pacmans most of the time don't wake up from these processes.

Right now I've just gone through the procedure that I used last time, started soaking the little fella in some warm bottled spring water (unfortunately don't have any access to pedialyte at the moment) and got the quarantine/soak container under a heat lamp.

[Lija]

So sorry it happened. So how the guy looks like after his bath? Pic?

[Lecroixe]

Unfortunately FF won't let me upload the two pictures I took but I believe he passed.

All of the environmental factors that influence pacmans coming out of the conditions were correct and would've allowed for him to start trying to break out of the mucous but after 120 mins no signs of breathing or activity (constantly checked up on him every 5 mins the last two hours now); made an attempt to free him from a layer of his very thick mucous and I came across what seemed to be blood/mucous around the front left jaw area and my heart sank as I figured I was already at the worst case scenario.

Very unfortunate and inconsiderate of me to expect the poor guy to live in a little keeper for so long even though I got him during August, I should've took more steps to making sure he was comfortable. Just got taxes back and my budget was enough to allow for me to upgrade the guy to a comfortable 10gal with his own heatsourcing/lights.

[Lecroixe]

Top Down View, As you can see he was definitely needing to eat.
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Side View - Blood(?) It's hard to see the red on the orange but the mucous is holding the blood from spilling into the water I believe.
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Old Photo
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Geroro was a good pacman. Very feisty and entertaining eater :/ I just wish I could've given him a proper habitat. I got to handle him more often than I did with Keropi as she was gaining size but still, he didn't need to pass on so early - he definitely had many more years :c

[Lija]

So very sorry for your loss, the position he as sitting is not typical for aestivation, my guess he just died and then the skin dried out, and it is possible this time it has nothing to do with temp swings. Im sure you are very upset with the situation and wish you did things a bit differently. But you know stuff happens to all of us even the most experienced ones, there are definitely things you wish to take back... As long as you lean from your mistakes you can look at it as educational experience. For the next time around you will probably invest in temp/humidity controller, such as hydrotherm.

At at any rate once again im so sorry for your loss, he was a beautiful frog! RIP little one