Quote Originally Posted by Lija View Post
Lisa, idiots from fish and wildlife decided just because these frogs are called poisonous they should be banned. No consults with scientific community, no warning, no nothing, they send 45 days notice. There is not a single reported case of being poisoned by anyone other then phyllobates, that they baned long ago. They do excrete poison', that may cause some reaction to humans, but only in a wild, after 3-6 months in captivity they are losing it completely. Cb poses absolutely no danger to anyone, unless may be you can choke if you eat it.... So dont eat frogs, dk t stick them in your nose and you should be just fine lol

they are about to euthanize thousands of endagered or critically endangered frogs taken from people's homes.
Its just a beggining, their colleagues from ontario were about to ban all snakes over 50cm and hamsters....... Im not kidding... Yes you are reading it correctly.... Hamsters, ball pythons, corn snakes, etc and only because of people supporting the cause it was no go and people are still making fun of them.

They better focus on creating jobs, support communities and helping people who need it.

Please share with everybody you can!

p.s. Sorry for off topic on a topic though... It's hard to miss lungworms ( Strongyloides), they are very typical looking. So if they are diagnosed, most likely that's true. Why frogs were not treated immediately is not exactly understandable. most protozoa are commensal and very rarely require treatment,of course if they are causing problems or are in excessive amounts then yes, you should treat, but that doesnt sound like was a case.
HAMSTERS??? Unfreakinbelievable... of course I think California banned Gerbils down in the states, didn't they?? O_o That's nuts though! Here all these frogs (and other species of animals) are disappearing world wide and they want to do something so stupid, *shakes head*

Ok, so Strongyloides are Lung worms? And Strongyles are gastrointestinal worms? Because if that's the case then Lucy and Martha have Lung worms too, as I was told they tested positive for Strongyloides I've put off treating them because I had to wait for the Ivermectin to be compounded to an oral suspension, then I got sick and didn't want to try force feeding them the med while I was feeling like crud and shaky... they are both off their feed, Lucy more so than Martha, should I just try and get some help and not wait longer to medicate them...? Guh, so much parasite sorting to do! I grabbed a fresh sample right out of Lucy the other day and got it on a slide under a microscope a lab tech friend of my dad's loaned him... LOADED! It was just a fresh smear, damp soft poo, no saline used... I looked first under 10x objective and then 20x... it was like a traffic rush of teeny tiny itty bitty things swimming around that I couldn't tell what the heck they were, saw one stationary ova of some kind (need a chart of frog specific parasites) and I saw some clear thin walled oblong shaped things oozing around (I couldn't tell if anything was inside these things) but then there was this bigger rounder blob which had stuff inside it, and it also was oozing it's way around and squeezing in and out of the sections on the slide separated by air bubbles or fecal matter. I was floored! I seriously need to get my hands on a fecalizer kit so I can do a float and look for eggs & oocysts and so on. Fascinating, but scary too, not knowing what is what and what is bad and what is ok-- I want a microscope with a camera so I can get pics and vids of these things!