Good Setup or no?

[RetroNemesis]

I am new to from keeping, but have kept leopard geckos, red eyed crocodile skinks, and a flying gecko and thought why not get a Dart frog either D. Auratus or D. Tinctorius. I was wondering if I have a good setup for one or two of them. And, yea I know no mixing.

[DigitalPunk]

Looks like a great setup. D. Auratus will not climb any so the available horizontal space would make me lean more towards something like D. Tinc Azureus. They are on the smaller size in the Tinc family and will climb some.

Couple things to point out with your enclosure and a couple questions.

1. What size is it?

2. Leaf liter - The 2 family of dart frogs you mention appreciate and require Leaf liter. They will hide in it, root in it for Micro fauna, and love the added security the feel of knowing a hiding spot is near by no matter where they are in the tank.


Paul

[RetroNemesis]

Thanks Paul. It's a 12x12x18 which is going to be upgraded to a 18x18x24 once they mature. And I will definitely look into getting lead litter

[DigitalPunk]

12x12x18 is good for a very short period of time. They should be ok in there as long as a move to a 18x18x24 or similar tank is done sooner rather than later.

I use 12x12x12 and 12x12x18 to grow out froglets until they are around 3 months old, but would not house sub adults or adults in them, just to small for them to be able to get away from each other if they need too.

[RetroNemesis]

That's what I was thinking as well, but got to know about the three months part. Do you think the water feature is enough water for them. It's had a shallow pool at the bottom that they can sit in? Or should I add a water bowl

[Crunchy Frog]

This looks like a very nice setup, but as others have noted, the Auratuses and Tincs tend to be more ground dwelling, while this setup seems geared to a more arboreal/climbing species. If this wasn't your first dart frog, I would probably be thinking Pumilios or thumbnails.

As far as beginner darts go, I believe that the Leucomelas are the most into climbing, so you may want to look into some of those.

I think the water feature is fine. I believe that darts don't really do much with standing water, apart from depositing their tadpoles in it. What I would suggest is that you rearrange the bromeliad so that it is upright and can hold standing water in its axils, as that's the water that they're more likely to actually utilize.

Disclaimer: I'm not any kind of dart frog expert. I kept a few back in ancient history, but without really knowing what I was doing, and I've been lurking on Dendroboard for awhile, but that's as far as my knowledge and experience goes.

[chris74]

There's an application available for calculating vivs, if you download the demo at TerraBygg and look at the default settings, that cage should be about 32x20x20 (the application measurements are in millimeters).

[DigitalPunk]

Water features in a dart frog tank are good for keeping humidity up and to look at, but the frogs won't do much with it. Really a Dart frog will only sit in water and soak if there is a humidity issue present in the tank.

Chris74 if you are looking to find the gallons of a tank you can multiply the Width x Height x depth and divide by 231 (for us gallons)