Whites Frogs Spending A lot of Time in Water

[ForeverFamous91]

Hi, I'm after a bit of advice which I haven't been able to find out elsewhere...

I posted before that one of my 2 Whites has been hiding mostly in the waterfall I have in there. Well now both of them have started hiding there... It's been about a month or 2 for the first one and my other one has started doing it too.

I have been trying to keep an eye as best as I can on them. The tank is in a clean state, fresh water etc. but they still insist on hiding in the waterfall. If I put my hand in to feed or anything else they hide back in the waterfall. They do come out at night and have a roam around, but that seems to be it. They tend to be brown when they are in the waterfall...

Is there anything else I can do? Does it sound serious?

Thanks

[Frogger00]

Is it the exoterra waterfall?


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[irThumper]

Hi, I'm after a bit of advice which I haven't been able to find out elsewhere...

I posted before that one of my 2 Whites has been hiding mostly in the waterfall I have in there. Well now both of them have started hiding there... It's been about a month or 2 for the first one and my other one has started doing it too.

I have been trying to keep an eye as best as I can on them. The tank is in a clean state, fresh water etc. but they still insist on hiding in the waterfall. If I put my hand in to feed or anything else they hide back in the waterfall. They do come out at night and have a roam around, but that seems to be it. They tend to be brown when they are in the waterfall...

Is there anything else I can do? Does it sound serious?

Thanks

When you first posted did you answer any of the questions in this thread? http://www.frogforum.net/tree-frogs/...enclosure.html I don't remember if I saw your post before, or replied to it (??) but answering these questions is usually always the first step to finding help. Thanks!

[Crispy42]

You mentioned in your other post that this behavior started after several plants died in the tank. If you haven't replaced the plants they could just be hiding where they feel secure. Adding more plants (live or fake) will provide some cover and they might feel more comfortable coming out into the open. From a frog's perspective a wide-open area with no cover can put them at risk of being ambushed by a predator, so providing more cover actually results in seeing your frogs more.

[ForeverFamous91]

You mentioned in your other post that this behavior started after several plants died in the tank. If you haven't replaced the plants they could just be hiding where they feel secure. Adding more plants (live or fake) will provide some cover and they might feel more comfortable coming out into the open. From a frog's perspective a wide-open area with no cover can put them at risk of being ambushed by a predator, so providing more cover actually results in seeing your frogs more.

I have since bought more plants, both live and fake. But they both now seem to be spending a lot of time in the waterfall..

1----what 'kind' of frog is it ( what species) 2 * Whites Tree Frogs
2----please include a photo of the frog


For some reason I'm unable to upload pictures right now...

3----Please include a photo of the frog's current enclosure

As above.

4----size of enclosure ( W" x D" x H" )

50 cm * 50cm * 60cm
5----# on inhabitants - ( if there is another frog --- is there a size difference ? )

2, they seem to be of the same size roughly now.

6----has or was the frog kept with a different species or with any other tank mate

Both frogs have been kept together since babies.

7----is there a new tank mate----was the new tank mate quarantined

N/A

8----what is the typical humidity level

50%-70%

9----what temperature is maintained

22 c - 27 c

10---what is, specifically, being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure

1 heat mat, and a ceramic heat bulb.

11---describe the enclosure lighting ( very specifically)

The tank has been moved near to the window. There is one UV light and a spot light too.

12---describe enclosure maintenance ( water changes, cleaning etc)

The water tends to evaporate so I top up the water every day then give the tank a wipe down each week.

13---what kind of water is used

For all I use tap water that has been left for about 2 days in a bottle.

-----for misting
-----for the frog's soaking dish
-----is de-chlorinator used / what brand
14---material(s) used for substrate - be very specific

I use coco exotrerra soil.

15---enclosure set up:
-----if recent - describe how the enclosure was cleaned

Used hot water to clean the walls of the tank, took out the fake plants and waterfall and dishes and rocks get soaked in hot water in the sink.

-----plants( live or artificial) if artificial plants are used are they plastic or fabric

3 live plants, they get checked and spruced up often, 4 fake plants, 3 fabric 1 plastic. They get also get cleaned weekly.

-----describe wood, bark , and background materials

Foam background.

16---when is the last time the frog ate

Grass hoppers have been put in this afternoon.

17---have you found poop lately

Yes, I cleaned it out this morning.

18---how often is the frog fed

Twice weekly.

19---what size feeder is given

5th grown Grasshopper

20---what other feeders are used as treats

N/a

21---what is the frog's main food source

Grass hoppers

22---do feeders roam free in the enclosure or is the frog bowl fed

Roam free. The frogs prefer it that way.

23---vitamins - what brand and how often

N/A

24---calcium - what brand and how often

Calci - Dust - once a week over the live feed.

25---was the frog without calcium for any period of time

N/a

26---approximate age of the frog

1 year and 6 months

27---how long have you owned the frog

1 year and 3 months

28---who cared for the frog before you

The breeder

29---is the frog wild caught or captive bred

Captive

30---how often the frog is handled -- are gloves used ( what kind of gloves)

Not very often anymore due to having 3 cats now. No gloves worn.

31---is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area

Low.

30---has or was the frog properly quarantined (yes or no)

No...

-----for how long
32---has the frog been treated with any medication:

No.

-----for what
-----name of medication
-----for how long
-----what dose
-----was medication prescribed by a herp vet

[irThumper]

11---describe the enclosure lighting ( very specifically)

The tank has been moved near to the window. There is one UV light and a spot light too. Which direction does the window face? If it's south or west you could be getting temperature spikes that are too uncomfortable or unsafe for the frogs. Same with humidity drops (though your levels are sounding spot on right now). Your temps don't sound too bad really, though the lower reading might be a tad too cool.

15---enclosure set up:
-----if recent - describe how the enclosure was cleaned

Used hot water to clean the walls of the tank, took out the fake plants and waterfall and dishes and rocks get soaked in hot water in the sink. Did you use a dechlorinator product when rinsing?