Tank humidity help

[josh]

Hello all. I recently built a new terrarium and it lookamazing! The only issue is that it stays at 99% humidity all the time. I have a bunch of live plants, a waterfall, and a water dish in there. The top of the cage is all glass. Except for the last few inches which are plastic with holes drilled in it. I have tree frogs and leopard frogs in their. The coco fiber substrate seems very dry and the frogs don't seem effected at all. Is there really any issue?

[monster]

Hi, I don't own treefrogs but I read a lot of the threads to learn as much as I can because in the future I would love to own some and from what I understand you need to open the top up somehow and get more air flow in there. The humidity is way to high I think for tree frogs it should only be around 50 to 60%. And having it that high could make your froggies sick I believe but I will let someone more experienced with tree frogs chime in on that one. And it is very frowned upon to mix to spieces of frogs together.

[Frogger00]

I think your hygrometer may be broken. The coco is dry but the humidity is at 99%? That doesn't seem right. I personally don't use a hygrometer, I mist a couple times a day and they thrive.


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[monster]

Another thing I just thought of after frogger00 mentioned that your hygrometer might be broken is when your misting if you get abit water on those digital ones you will have a lot higher reading then it actually is. I found this out one day while misting my pacman frog, as soon as I dried it off the reading slowly went down.

[josh]

Another thing I just thought of after frogger00 mentioned that your hygrometer might be broken is when your misting if you get abit water on those digital ones you will have a lot higher reading then it actually is. I found this out one day while misting my pacman frog, as soon as I dried it off the reading slowly went down.

This could very well be what is happening. Now I'm at 90%

[jarteta97]

I'm kind of like Frogger on the whole humidity thing. I do have a hygrometer (NatGeo brand), but I don't totally trust it. Usually I can tell from the plants and even the frog coloring (Hyla cinerea) what the humidity is at. Bill is a master at it, I do believe he whispers to the plants and they whisper back

[monster]

Bill is the plant whisperer, it will be new show on nat geo and it will come on after the dog whisperer. L.O.L

[DigitalPunk]

Couple of things.

1. The top of the tank needs to be vented (roughly 80% vented) for tree frogs.
2. Looks to me like your hydrometer is reading incorrectly. At 99% you would have condensation on everything including the glass.
3. What kind of wood is that? If it is a piece of Grapevine than it will need to be removed sooner rather than later. It will mold quickly (a black/grey mold that is very dangerous).
4. Your substrate will not sustain plants long term. Should consider replacing it with something similar to ABG Mix (or ABG mix itself)
5. The Vivarium really should be taller for tree frogs. They want to climb and really do best in enclosures that are a minimum of 24" tall. I am not saying they won't survive in there, but they would appreciate more room
6. Mixing species is frowned upon. I am not going to lecture you, but be careful. You could end up loosing some or all of your frogs.
7. The lighting can also dry the air out quickly depending on what you use. You didn't mention that but if you want to know more please post the types of bulbs you are using.

Sorry to be full of criticisms. A few tweaks and you will have a great stable home for your frogs .

Paul

[josh]

Couple of things.

1. The top of the tank needs to be vented (roughly 80% vented) for tree frogs.
2. Looks to me like your hydrometer is reading incorrectly. At 99% you would have condensation on everything including the glass.
3. What kind of wood is that? If it is a piece of Grapevine than it will need to be removed sooner rather than later. It will mold quickly (a black/grey mold that is very dangerous).
4. Your substrate will not sustain plants long term. Should consider replacing it with something similar to ABG Mix (or ABG mix itself)
5. The Vivarium really should be taller for tree frogs. They want to climb and really do best in enclosures that are a minimum of 24" tall. I am not saying they won't survive in there, but they would appreciate more room
6. Mixing species is frowned upon. I am not going to lecture you, but be careful. You could end up loosing some or all of your frogs.
7. The lighting can also dry the air out quickly depending on what you use. You didn't mention that but if you want to know more please post the types of bulbs you are using.

Sorry to be full of criticisms. A few tweaks and you will have a great stable home for your frogs .

Paul

Dear Paul,
I really appreciate all the feedback form you. I would like to adress each issue I am presented with.
1. I got the idea of the glass top from my reptile shop. They also keep their tree frogs in cages like mine with a glass top and screen back. They said that this is ok as long as you have an ecosystem in their. For example they said that the plants will produce oxygen for the tree frogs and take in the carbon dioxide.

2. In the morning there is condensation on the glass. But that goes away after a while. There is still a pocibility of water inside the hydromometer. Or it may be broken.

3. I believe that the wood is more of a driftwood but I will check And remove if necessary.

4. My substrate is gardening/potting soil. Then there is an inch of coco fiber. The roots are in the soil. If that doesn't support plants I don't know what will ��

5.They have about 20 inches of climbing space. Not much I can do about that. Mine like to. Stay on the leafs most of the time. I wish they had a few more inches but this is a 1500$ tank. Not changing.

6. I know that mixing species may not be the best idea but I have had these guys for over 5 years. All have been reported healthy. But know of anything were to go downhill I would change them to separate cages.

7. This cage has a Big long led light that goes all across the length of the cage. The cage is also close to a window. My plants have thrived In my previous cage so I'm not to worried about that.

I appreciate everything that you said and am not disagreeing with anything you said. I'm just saying where I come from. Thanks����

[josh]

I agree. I have had these guys in a different cage with out a humidifier for years. Misting each day and I have a humidifier. I just bought one to check.

[deranged chipmunk]

Water in the probe. There is zero possibility of that tank running at 99% humidity.

That's about all I can add that hasn't been said above.


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