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    Hello, about a week ago, my frog started acting lethargic, and i noticed his back legs were weak, with the toes curling slightly. I assumed it was either an impaction or early-stage MBD, since i had not been dusting his crickets with vitamins in the time i have owned him (6 months). He pooped yesterday, which rules out impaction. He's getting repashy calcium plus on his crickets now, which should hopefully heal any problems he may have had due to lack of vitamins.
    Over the past two days he's perked up considerably, no longer acting lethargic, climbing around his tank and croaking just like normal. I'd say he's all better, except that he has these lumps on his side, and his right leg still seems weaker than normal. I've looked everywhere and haven't been able to find a case similar to mine. The lumps aren't hard, don't seem to be an abcess or bacterial infection. They feel just like the rest of his skin, and seem to be internal. Is this enough of an emergency to warrant taking him to a vet? He's perfectly healthy other than this.

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    4----size of enclosure
    18" x 18" x 24"
    5----# on inhabitants - No other inhabitants
    6----has or was the frog kept with a different species or with any other tank mate no
    7----is there a new tank mate----was the new tank mate quarantined no tank mate
    8----what is the typical humidity level 60%
    9----what temperature is maintained 80 during the day, 75 at night
    10---what is, specifically, being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure 2 red heat lamps above the tank
    11---describe the enclosure lighting ( very specifically) 1 UVB light (on during the day, off at night) Unsure of wattage/brand/uvb levels
    12---describe enclosure maintenance water bowls cleaned daily, misted 2-3 times a day, poop cleaned on sight, everything cleaned once a month
    13---what kind of water is used
    -----for misting dechlorinated reverse-osmosis water
    -----for the frog's soaking dish dechlorinated tap water
    -----is de-chlorinator used / what brand yes, repti-safe
    14---material(s) used for substrate - be very specific eco-earth coconut fiber
    15---enclosure set up:
    -----if recent - describe how the enclosure was cleaned I cleaned the tank 3 weeks ago - replaced the substrate, scrubbed the walls with water, rinsed and scrubbed all the things in the tank with hot water
    -----plants( live or artificial) if artificial plants are used are they plastic or fabric 1 bunch of fabric leaves, 1 fabric-leaved vine, 1 fabric-leaved floor plant, 1 wall branch with fabric leaves
    -----describe wood, bark , and background materials 1 tall, smooth driftwood, foam background.
    16---when is the last time the frog ate today, 2 crickets
    17---have you found poop lately yes, yesterday
    18---how often is the frog fed every other day
    19---what size feeder is given large crickets
    20---what other feeders are used as treats none
    21---what is the frog's main food source crickets
    22---do feeders roam free in the enclosure or is the frog bowl fed bowl fed
    23---vitamins - what brand and how often repashy calcium +. used once, because i just got it.
    24---calcium - what brand and how often fluker's calcium dust fed to the crickets
    25---was the frog without calcium for any period of time crickets were always fed calcium dust, went without extra supplements for 6 months
    26---approximate age of the frog mature - unknown exact age
    27---how long have you owned the frog 6 months
    28---who cared for the frog before you pet store
    29---is the frog wild caught or captive bred captive bred
    30---how often the frog is handled -- are gloves used ( what kind of gloves) once a week or so, no gloves, just clean and misted hands
    31---is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area low traffic, high noise sometimes though
    30---has or was the frog properly quarantined (yes or no) no quarantine
    -----for how long
    32---has the frog been treated with any medication: no
    -----for what
    -----name of medication
    -----for how long
    -----what dose
    -----was medication prescribed by a herp vet

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    Default Re: Weird Lumps on my WTF's back

    MBD is a very dangerous condition for frogs. Often leads to death. Glad you frog is doing better. Nutrition is just as important to frogs as it is for humans. White tree frogs are prone to obesity. Here are two articles that may interest you:

    http://www.amphibianark.org/pdf/Husb...0nutrition.pdf
    http://www.amphibianark.org/pdf/Husb...tamin%20D3.pdf

    I am also concerned about the white patches. Not sure if it is a bacterial or fungal infection. You may try swabbing the wounds twice a day with Bactine using a Q-tip. Bactine is a recommended topical for amphibians.

    Source: MARTIN, D., and H. HONG. 1991. The use of Bactine® in the treatment of open wounds and other lesions in captive anurans. Herpetol Rev 22: 21.
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    The white patches on his nose, or his back? On his back are just regular frog freckles, they've always been there. On his nose is a sore leftover from when he was rubbing his nose against the tank mesh a month or so ago, i haven't been putting anything on it but i've been monitoring it closely, it seems to be healing up just fine on its own and he's not bothered by it.

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    Must have misunderstood your post. Glad all is OK.
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    I called a vet today, but the exotics specialist won't be available for two weeks from now. In the meantime i'm still worried, the bumps on his back don't seem to be getting worse, but they aren't getting better either. He's still eating, croaking, and pooping regularly,(don't know if he's been shedding) but sleeping far more than normal and barely seems to be able to move his right leg.

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