how many bumblebee darts can go in a 10 gallon?

**spires33** · December 28th, 2014

ok i am planning on getting a bigger tank someday.... maybe if i can afford it
and also if i just got some pathos for now and covered the tank bottom with it would this be ok?

**PubFiction** · December 28th, 2014

Depends on what you mean by someday. If you plan to upgrade a vivarium in a year or so you can probably get away with 4 froglets. When they start to mature they will need more space. If you don't know if they might stay in the 10 gallon for years then you can only fit one in there by the 10 gallon / frog dogma.

**spires33** · December 28th, 2014

ok thanks i had a feeling it was a 1 for a 10 gallon but i kept reading 2 (i even read three O.o) and i could only get 1 at first anyways so its all good

**PubFiction** · December 28th, 2014

Well success with frogs is variable and some people just put their frogs in a more cramp space. Also people often have more success if frogs grow up together. But the 10 gallon per frog is a fairly accepted and safe bet. But if you are new to dart frogs then its best to stick with the safe bet and actually sticking with one could be good because you will not have to deal with aggression issues.

**flybyferns** · December 30th, 2014

Hello

I agree with the good information you have been given.
I do have one additional question "bumble bee dart frogs" ??
If you mean D leucomelas then you really done need to worry about aggression as they do well in a small group.
( with bigger living quarters)

Leucs are a great starter frog and very entertaining, to say the least.
You might squeak 2 into the 10 gallon. You should not mix the Leuc 'morphs'--> they will breed and you'll have ....well a mess of offspring no one will want.

Keep in mind... they love to climb; keep an eye on the rim when you open up

The pothos is fine. They will find cover under that. Simply give them a little hide to tuck into.

**spires33** · December 30th, 2014

ok thanks i mean these https://www.google.com/search?q=bumb...ed=0CAcQ_AUoAg

**deranged chipmunk** · December 31st, 2014

Somebody should have warned you, we don't do common names, only Latin when it comes to darts lol

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**spires33** · January 1st, 2015

haha ok just my spelling is terrible so i try to avoid long words

**flybyferns** · January 5th, 2015

Originally Posted by spires33

haha ok just my spelling is terrible so i try to avoid long words

It's me again,

You can call your frogs what ever you want to

I refer to my leucs as "mountain goats" because they think they're tree frogs.

Actually, I assumed you were talking about D leucomelas.
It could have been bumble bee walking toads ( Melanophryniscus stelzneri ) that are the same colors but in need of completely different care.

If you think the spelling is bad .... the pronunciation is worse.
Billy can do it on the fly !
I, on the other hand need the Anura version of 'Rosetta-Stone'

Good luck with them ----keep us posted

**spires33** · January 18th, 2015

well... im not sure if the breeder is going to get back with me....
you guys know where i could get lower shipping rates? or where they are super cheap and have a live arrival guarantee?
really stinks about this.. the breeder lives like 10 minutes away from me

**PubFiction** · January 18th, 2015

Safe shipping of frogs is expensive no matter what especially in the winter, if you list your location we might be able to find you someone whom is close.

**deranged chipmunk** · January 1st, 2015

I know the feeling. And autocorrect normally kicks my butt when typing out Latin names

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**Bombina Bob** · January 1st, 2015

copy and paste is always my friend when it comes to long scientific names

**PubFiction** · January 1st, 2015

Spell it right once, then add it to your dictionary on your phone or PC, from here on out auto correct is on your side.

**deranged chipmunk** · January 1st, 2015

I'm too stubborn to add stuff to the dictionary. And it seems like every update, Apple screws me and my dictionary goes bye bye lol

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**deranged chipmunk** · January 20th, 2015

Originally Posted by spires33

actually the other day i saw a 40 gallon for 90$.. if its still on sale i'm getting it

Is it a 40 breeder? Does it come with a stand? I only ask because with the $1/gallon sale at petco right now (until the 24th), you can get a 40b for $40.

Education is the most powerful weapon we can use to change the world ~ Nelson Mandela

**spires33** · January 21st, 2015

Originally Posted by deranged chipmunk

Is it a 40 breeder? Does it come with a stand? I only ask because with the $1/gallon sale at petco right now (until the 24th), you can get a 40b for $40.

Education is the most powerful weapon we can use to change the world ~ Nelson Mandela

i have heard about that, i had my mom check it out and they don't have a sale.. mabye the other one in my area does.

**spires33** · January 23rd, 2015

ok got the 40 gallon... forgot the lid -.-

Aldross · January 25th, 2015

You don't really want gravel or a lid that you can buy in stores.
Check this out for some help.
http://www.neherpetoculture.com/vivariumconstruction101
As for the lid it needs to be mostly glass with a couple inch vent built it.

**spires33** · January 25th, 2015

Originally Posted by Aldross

You don't really want gravel or a lid that you can buy in stores.
Check this out for some help.
New England Herpetoculture LLC - Vivarium Construction 101
As for the lid it needs to be mostly glass with a couple inch vent built it.

they wont be on the gravel.
its for the false bottom

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