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    Quote Originally Posted by elly View Post
    I wouldn't worry that much either, maybe he prefers being brown? Changing colors can be a sign of stress, but it doesn't seem to always be one. Mine turns brown when he gets damp or chilled.

    Frogs have very slow metabolisms, not pooping more than once a week seems pretty normal. Also, sitting very very still during the day...you wouldn't believe the number of times I've mistaken my frog for dead. I understand, it's a bad feeling. But you've got to remember they're cold-blooded and they evolved to sit very, very still so predators can't find them and so they can sneak up on their prey. Sometimes they just sit on the ground for a while.

    Also, congratulations! You seem to have a friendly frog who loves to climb on you! It's not terrified and that's a good sign.

    Edit: I'd raise the humidity and check and see if the carpet has any loops a froggy foot could get caught in. Other than that everything seems fine.
    Agreed! Also wanted to add, mostly everything in my enclosure is brown, and my frogs both are green most of the time. And like Ella said, when my frogs are either damp or chilled they tend to go a little darker. I've also heard males change color more often then females. About the reptile carpet, I would suggest either paper towel or something similar that's a bit softer, as the carpets tend to feel a bit rough. I've found my frogs prefer something cushy. I use moss, which I know many people are against but multiple times I have found my two cuddled into the moss in a deep sleep


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    What kind of lighting is he getting? My frogs have 6500K T8 grow lights for plants on their table and the normal incandescent room lighting, plus a blue 60 watt daytime bulb over their housing and red 60 watt bulb at night; all lighting is 12 hrs on 12 off. Jelly Bean and Honey-Lime change color the most infrequently. Honey is almost always lime colored (honey color is his version of brown), and Jelly is a pretty Hersey's chocolate brown I'd say 98% of the time, and an olive green on occasion (mostly goes green at night, oddly). Shirley is my color change expert. In the daytime, whether awake or asleep, she is varies between greener seafoam green to pale blue-green, at night she turns that purplish-brown color you mentioned... when transitioning it is common that the sides and legs stay green while the top side is the darker color. She's never turned as brown as a brown as the pics of your guy. She will on occasion turn a smokier purple grey color, which to me looks like a zombie skin-- bleh! She is mostly active when she is darker since she is hunting, but I have seen her inactive and soaking for extended periods of time where she was the zombie color. My guys all have white paper toweling for substrate, Shirl & honey have a purple soaking dish and upside down saucer, a pale green flower pot and darker green silk leaves for their plant. Jelly has a marbled green and while soaker dish, a pale green aucer and flower pot, and a single giant medium green silk leaf for his plant.

    Your humidity sounds fine to me, though 50% is better than 40% of course. Temps should be fine, mine average 77-80 in the daytime and 73-75 at night. I'd try to experiment with the lighting.
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    Well over the course of this last week or two now, ive experiment a few things..

    FYI... always had a blue glass 60 watt over him during the day and i leave him in the dark at night

    Put on foil paper on top and aroubd three windows to cover him up. Closest petstore is 45 minutes away and during the holidays, its all i could use for now. Well..... absolutely no change. Still very purple brown during the day. Still some kibd of green legs at night or when i handle him.. weigh him and hes lost some weight too.. hmm....

    Getting that stuff i ordered hopefully on monday. Ive added a few things which i think he likes as hes been playing ariund them.

    Temp up same as usual. Trying to keep it lower as he looks like he pants when its over 80 which freaks me out.. and trying to keep humidity at 60.

    Hes still eating good, pooping on his week and half schedule LOL and right on the shell waiting fir me at night to put him to bed and i find him out a lot waiting for me to wake him up in the morning. Heard him going off this morning too

    So im not sure.. heres a few more pictures.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by irThumper View Post
    What kind of lighting is he getting? My frogs have 6500K T8 grow lights for plants on their table and the normal incandescent room lighting, plus a blue 60 watt daytime bulb over their housing and red 60 watt bulb at night; all lighting is 12 hrs on 12 off. Jelly Bean and Honey-Lime change color the most infrequently. Honey is almost always lime colored (honey color is his version of brown), and Jelly is a pretty Hersey's chocolate brown I'd say 98% of the time, and an olive green on occasion (mostly goes green at night, oddly). Shirley is my color change expert. In the daytime, whether awake or asleep, she is varies between greener seafoam green to pale blue-green, at night she turns that purplish-brown color you mentioned... when transitioning it is common that the sides and legs stay green while the top side is the darker color. She's never turned as brown as a brown as the pics of your guy. She will on occasion turn a smokier purple grey color, which to me looks like a zombie skin-- bleh! She is mostly active when she is darker since she is hunting, but I have seen her inactive and soaking for extended periods of time where she was the zombie color. My guys all have white paper toweling for substrate, Shirl & honey have a purple soaking dish and upside down saucer, a pale green flower pot and darker green silk leaves for their plant. Jelly has a marbled green and while soaker dish, a pale green aucer and flower pot, and a single giant medium green silk leaf for his plant.

    Your humidity sounds fine to me, though 50% is better than 40% of course. Temps should be fine, mine average 77-80 in the daytime and 73-75 at night. I'd try to experiment with the lighting.

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    I would stop handling him 100% right now. Whites may tolerate handling a little better than say, a red eyed tree frog, but it will still stress them out no matter how chill they may appear. If he's not doing great, losing weight, I would make sure to reduce the stress as much as possible. I'm not sure about the "panting." I've never seen a tree frog pant, maybe shedding? What are you feeding him? If poop is rare, feeders may be too big and he's having trouble digesting them. What kind of water are you using?

    EDIT - How long have you had him? Where did you get him? Wild caught or captive bred? Ever had fecal tests done?
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    I could be wrong, But this frog looks a bit dehydrated. But what a beautiful frog!

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