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    Default Re: HELP! Gray tree from bloated with air

    Firstly, a little mold will not hurt them. I would bump the humidity back up to 45-50%, especially when you do not have much substrate to maintain it. Get the temps to about 70 and maintain them there. I know they can survive winter, but they'll digest the best with a higher temp The 12x12x18 will work while they are juveniles, but you're going to want to get something bigger as they grow. That's not enough space for two grown grey tree frogs. If he can't climb, I would get rid of the reptile carpet, you do not want it to scratch his sensitive skin. Use damp, unprinted paper towels, changed every 1-2 days. The water needs to be treated even if it is well water. Helps with the heavy metals. That could be the issue if he's been soaking a little extra and the water isn't treated. Does the stomach feel hard? Is it squishy like it's filled with air or with fluid? Are they big enough to take small crickets yet?

    UV is not necessary, the calcium supplements will work just fine. You should also get vitamin supplements, fruit flies aren't exactly packed with nutrition, the sooner the better!

    You may want to get the fecals tested to make sure there are no parasites causing issues.

    EDIT: And welcome to the forum! Greys can be really great pets!

    I'd also get a more reliable way of measuring temp/humidity. You can just use a plain glass floating thermometer (from the fish section, $1-2) to measure the temps. May want to get a digital hygrometer for measuring the humidity. Not much in the way of substrate and heat lamps could dry things out fast.
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    Default Re: HELP! Gray tree from bloated with air

    Here is a thread when I had a similar thing happen ... http://www.frogforum.net/tree-frogs/8951-she-okay.html

    My well water that I used in their tank was untreated at the time. Within 24 hours though, the bloating went down and it never interfered with his movements.
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    awesome! thank you! I will try your suggestions and probably post an update tomorrow

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    Default Re: HELP! Gray tree from bloated with air

    and his belly is squishy. It actually looks like air stuck in there....but since it goes up and down so much it is probably fluid

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    Update. The bloating got worse overnight I cleaned out the tank and added the paper towel substrate, worked on maintaining a higher humidity and added a heat pad. The bloating has gotten bad enough that he no longer fits in his little hidey hole on the tank floor and I don't think he can eat. Because of the whole eating thing, I decided to read up on aspiration. It was by far the last thing I wanted to do. Right before doing "frog surgery" this morning, I saw him fall over onto his back. He was so fat that he couldn't roll himself over. Thus far, frog surgery seems to have helped....at least given him some relief. Quite a bit of fluid drained out, not as quickly as I had expected. But I put him in a hospital tank and am just watching to make sure he is okay. "/

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    I am not sure, But this may be renal failure. The poor thing may have severely reduced kidney function. If it is an infection, Maybe Baytril soaks will help. Check other threads for that. I am only parroting what I have read before. Spring water baths may help for frogs overloaded with toxins. Also read about Vitamin A toxicity. The more you know, The better right? I know people say there is no need for UVB lights, But that is ludicrous. No living creature on earth can live healthfully long term without sunlight, Be it artificial or not. Be sure to use a screened top if you do use a UVB bulb. That spectrum of light does not properly penetrate glass. I believe a full spectrum UVA/UVB Heat lamp is best for Gray tree frogs and a red "night time" bulb for their nocturnal hours. Also, Please do not listen to those who say that Gray tree frogs do not need a light or heat source. That is patently untrue. Without sufficient heat, Your amphibian cannot properly absorb nutrients from food or supplements.Beyond that, Depression can and does occur in amphibians. These lights are known to help. I know I am giving you a lot of information here, But depression and stress are major reasons for health issues as well as improper husbandry. As far as nutrition, I have found it best to use a Multi vitamin/Multi mineral supplement with D3 and a calcium supplement without D3. Toxicity also can occur from too much D3 and if your frog has reduced kidney function then you must be very careful. Do you treat your water with something such as Aquatize? If not, Please start. Toxicity also occurs from untreated water. I mist my Gray and her enclosure with Poland Spring several times a day. She loves it. Since they drink through their skin it keeps them well hydrated between soaks in frequently cleaned water. Sorry for all of the info at once, It is everything I could think of that might help your sweet little frog. I hope he will be ok. Please update us on his condition.

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