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    kimber85
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    Default Help needed with giant bicolor frog

    Hello, I have a giant waxy bicolor frog that I have had for almost 2 years now. She is very big, definitely a female as I had a male who would croak but he sadly died and she is much bigger. She has a very bad habit of climbing right to the top of her tank and repeatedly pushing on the top mesh with her hands and face, she has quite a bit of strength so she ends up injuring herself, her nose is a big pink patch and she has marks on her head and a single blister in the middle of one toe on each hand.
    I treat her with neosporin often so the wounds don't get infected. I just want her to have a nice normal nose and not look so beat up all the time lol. I have had to make the tank as simple as possible, I can't put any kind of decorations on the sides as she will just use them as leverage to push up even stronger. The top of the tank was metal mesh but after I noticed her doing this when I first got her I switched it to fabric mesh but even though it is a lot less abrasive she still get injuries from it. She was originally in a 36x18x24 and I upgraded to a 36x18x36 terrarium and she still does it. I figured it was down to her settling in when I first got her but she pretty much does this every night or every other night, she is very stubbon and won't learn her boundaries lol. I know she is wild caught so I can't really blame her. I feel bad for her I don't have space for a bigger tank do you think I should give her away to someone that does or maybe a zoo or something? I probably would not have bought her if i'd have known that she was taken from the wild or would need the run of my house lol.

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    Default Re: Help needed with giant bicolor frog

    I'm sorry your froggy is not feeling well There could be something wrong in the enclosure that she is trying to escape from. Temps, humidity, bad water etc. Could you copy/paste and fill this out so we can get a better idea of what is going on?

    QUESTIONS

    1----what 'kind' of frog is it ( what species)
    2----please include a photo of the frog
    3----Please include a photo of the frog's current enclosure
    4----size of enclosure ( W" x D" x H" )
    5----# on inhabitants - ( if there is another frog --- is there a size difference ? )
    6----has or was the frog kept with a different species or with any other tank mate
    7----is there a new tank mate----was the new tank mate quarantined
    8----what is the typical humidity level
    9----what temperature is maintained
    10---what is, specifically, being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure
    11---describe the enclosure lighting ( very specifically)
    12---describe enclosure maintenance ( water changes, cleaning etc)
    13---what kind of water is used
    -----for misting
    -----for the frog's soaking dish
    -----is de-chlorinator used / what brand
    14---material(s) used for substrate - be very specific
    15---enclosure set up:
    -----if recent - describe how the enclosure was cleaned
    -----plants( live or artificial) if artificial plants are used are they plastic or fabric
    -----describe wood, bark , and background materials
    16---when is the last time the frog ate
    17---have you found poop lately
    18---how often is the frog fed
    19---what size feeder is given
    20---what other feeders are used as treats
    21---what is the frog's main food source
    22---do feeders roam free in the enclosure or is the frog bowl fed
    23---vitamins - what brand and how often
    24---calcium - what brand and how often
    25---was the frog without calcium for any period of time
    26---approximate age of the frog
    27---how long have you owned the frog
    28---who cared for the frog before you
    29---is the frog wild caught or captive bred
    30---how often the frog is handled -- are gloves used ( what kind of gloves)
    31---is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area
    30---has or was the frog properly quarantined (yes or no)
    -----for how long
    32---has the frog been treated with any medication:
    -----for what
    -----name of medication
    -----for how long
    -----what dose
    -----was medication prescribed by a herp vet

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    kimber85
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    Default Re: Help needed with giant bicolor frog

    ANSWERS

    1----what 'kind' of frog is it ( what species) phyllomedusa bicolor
    2----please include a photo of the frog will take one later on
    3----Please include a photo of the frog's current enclosure see above
    4----size of enclosure ( W" x D" x H" ) 36 x 18 x 36
    5----# on inhabitants - ( if there is another frog --- is there a size difference ? ) 1, just her
    6----has or was the frog kept with a different species or with any other tank mate yes 1 other p.bicolor (deceased 18 months ago)
    7----is there a new tank mate----was the new tank mate quarantined no
    8----what is the typical humidity level 40%
    9----what temperature is maintained 82 F
    10---what is, specifically, being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure lights
    11---describe the enclosure lighting ( very specifically) 2 basking light bulbs 50 w each
    12---describe enclosure maintenance ( water changes, cleaning etc) change water every other day, clean glass whenever dirty.
    13---what kind of water is used
    -----for misting dechlorinated
    -----for the frog's soaking dish tap water
    -----is de-chlorinator used / what brand aqua plus and cycle
    14---material(s) used for substrate - be very specific - moss mat
    15---enclosure set up:
    -----if recent - describe how the enclosure was cleaned
    -----plants( live or artificial) if artificial plants are used are they plastic or fabric fabric
    -----describe wood, bark , and background materials 3 large smooth branches
    16---when is the last time the frog ate 2 days ago, 6 adult crickets
    17---have you found poop lately yes
    18---how often is the frog fed twice a week
    19---what size feeder is given adult crickets
    20---what other feeders are used as treats nothing won't eat anything else
    21---what is the frog's main food source crickets
    22---do feeders roam free in the enclosure or is the frog bowl fed, tong fed
    23---vitamins - what brand and how often, repashy calcium plus every feed
    24---calcium - what brand and how often repashy calcium plus every feed
    25---was the frog without calcium for any period of time no
    26---approximate age of the frog wild caught so no idea
    27---how long have you owned the frog 2 years
    28---who cared for the frog before you the amazon rainforest lol
    29---is the frog wild caught or captive bred wild
    30---how often the frog is handled -- are gloves used ( what kind of gloves) only if I need to move her, powder free gloves used
    31---is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area - low
    30---has or was the frog properly quarantined (yes or no) yes
    -----for how long 3 months
    32---has the frog been treated with any medication:
    -----for what nose rub/ wounds
    -----name of medication neosporin
    -----for how long on and off for 2 years
    -----what dose a blob on each wound
    -----was medication prescribed by a herp vet no recommended online


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    Default Re: Help needed with giant bicolor frog

    I really hope someone can help poor little Daisy

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    Default Re: Help needed with giant bicolor frog

    Hi and welcome to the frog forum!

    i must say... Wow! Very rarely do I see waxies kept properly.

    Something stresses her out. Husbandry is ok, food is not. Just crickets are not enough. Bicolors would love to get even a pinky once in a while. Get whatever you can and as different as you can - dubia roaches, pinky ( no more then one a month), hornworms, nighcrawlers since she is tong fed, she shouldn't care too much.

    a few more q
    -have you done a proper quarantine with fecal testing when you just got her? Please describe how it was done exactly.
    - what type of lights are you using other then basking? Asking in regards of UVB in particular.

    I really would like like to see pic of her and her enclosure to advise further.
    Last edited by Lija; November 21st, 2014 at 01:48 PM.
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    Default Re: Help needed with giant bicolor frog

    Have you tried a piece of smooth plastic cut out in the middle like a frame and attached to the inside of the lid? It might provide less friction than the fabric mesh.

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