Crazy as a box of frogs

[elly]

I didn't answer your questions earlier, because I don't really know how to, but wow, it looks like you're doing a lot of work. I have one young frog and it's eating pinhead crickets like there's no tomorrow. You might need more small insects than you think you will.

[irThumper]

Um..... wow. So, first question: What type of frogs are these guys? The small tad might be a different species...? You definitely have your work cut out for you!

[flybyferns]

Um..... wow. So, first question: What type of frogs are these guys? The small tad might be a different species...? You definitely have your work cut out for you!

Yes ! This is an important question.
The frogs need to be identified.
You're in N Carolina...?
Any idea at all as to this species you have so many of ?

[irThumper]

Frogs and Toads of North Carolina

Link to native frogs of North Carolina

[DEW]

Um..... wow. So, first question: What type of frogs are these guys? The small tad might be a different species...? You definitely have your work cut out for you!

irThumper and Lynn,
I apologize,


I posted more information three weeks ago,http://http://www.frogforum.net/tree...ree-frogs.html
They are Gray Tree Frogs, Common, not Copes.
The only frogs I ever saw in the pool or heard calling were grays (there was one night I heard a faint call of a pickerel) the boisterous chorus of the Grays all but drowned him out. All of the tadpoles and the froglets that developed looked like grays, first and second pool full, all together I would guess there were at least 4000. There were 2 tadpoles that still looked like this about three weeks ago, all of the others were at least as large and advanced as the one pictured with him. I haven't seen the other since a couple days before I rounded them up and brought them in. The water temp dropped from 55 degrees F. to 33 very rapidly when we had some really cold weather all of the sudden. When they began to die instead of maturing and leaving on their own, I decided to take the leap and bring those remaining inside.This little tadpole in the picture ( his name is sperm , while I was lamenting his size my husband grinned and said "Well at least he is still very motile" that sealed it. He is at least 8-10 weeks old, (tadpole, not my husband ) are there any NC species that have long lasting tadpole-hoods ?

As far as having my work cut out for me, you have no idea, lol. I foster for the humane society and have more cats and kittens than I care to count, ferals I am taming, most are being medicated for one thing or other, I have three different rooms of quarantined kittens with three different conditions. I do all of the vaccinations and worming for all our fosters... So yes, I am busy and I told myself there was no way I was going to have the time to take care of all of these froggy-kids all winter... and yet... Thus the title of this post.

I have done wildlife rehab, never once did anyone bring me a frog.

Basic husbandry I have down. Most of the medications mentioned in the emergency/medicine cabinet I already have on hand. Some formulations (percentage of active ingredient) are different but can be converted.There are a couple of things I need to add.

Ordinarily I would do a bunch of research, and I have done some rather than ask you all tons of questions I am sure you roll your eyes at and (possibly even graciously) answer again and again. My Research was by no means exhaustive,I am just hoping someone takes pity on me when I do ask stupid questions, lol. Then I can at least hope for a chance to sleep

Zack at Joshes Frogs told me I would need to house them in groups of 20 so that when disease breaks out it is limited to one group. I would like to think I could avoid illness for just one winter if I work at it ( is that naive?)I do have every intention of giving them a lot more space, which will automatically require splitting them up into smaller groups, thats just common sence.

I do know that the biggest health risk to exotics is... stupidity, I mean... no, stupidity just about covers it.
Seriously, diet and environment .

So I ordered a small-ish fortune in supplies yesterday and to vary their diet beyond what I ordered I collected termites from fallen trees along with a few small brown ants today while I was walking my dog. The little froggies loved the termites! One little guy did try for the biggest one and ended up with half a termite hanging out of his mouth, I think it freaked him out a bit, he sat completely motionless for at least an hour while it continued to writhe and wiggle.

2:30am kittens need bottles and are letting me know it.

Thank you all in advance for your patience,
DEW

[irThumper]

irThumper and Lynn,
I apologize,


I posted more information three weeks ago,http://http://www.frogforum.net/tree...ree-frogs.html
They are Gray Tree Frogs, Common, not Copes.
The only frogs I ever saw in the pool or heard calling were grays (there was one night I heard a faint call of a pickerel) the boisterous chorus of the Grays all but drowned him out. All of the tadpoles and the froglets that developed looked like grays, first and second pool full, all together I would guess there were at least 4000. There were 2 tadpoles that still looked like this about three weeks ago, all of the others were at least as large and advanced as the one pictured with him. I haven't seen the other since a couple days before I rounded them up and brought them in. The water temp dropped from 55 degrees F. to 33 very rapidly when we had some really cold weather all of the sudden. When they began to die instead of maturing and leaving on their own, I decided to take the leap and bring those remaining inside.This little tadpole in the picture ( his name is sperm , while I was lamenting his size my husband grinned and said "Well at least he is still very motile" that sealed it. He is at least 8-10 weeks old, (tadpole, not my husband ) are there any NC species that have long lasting tadpole-hoods ?

As far as having my work cut out for me, you have no idea, lol. I foster for the humane society and have more cats and kittens than I care to count, ferals I am taming, most are being medicated for one thing or other, I have three different rooms of quarantined kittens with three different conditions. I do all of the vaccinations and worming for all our fosters... So yes, I am busy and I told myself there was no way I was going to have the time to take care of all of these froggy-kids all winter... and yet... Thus the title of this post.

I have done wildlife rehab, never once did anyone bring me a frog.

Basic husbandry I have down. Most of the medications mentioned in the emergency/medicine cabinet I already have on hand. Some formulations (percentage of active ingredient) are different but can be converted.There are a couple of things I need to add.

Ordinarily I would do a bunch of research, and I have done some rather than ask you all tons of questions I am sure you roll your eyes at and (possibly even graciously) answer again and again. My Research was by no means exhaustive,I am just hoping someone takes pity on me when I do ask stupid questions, lol. Then I can at least hope for a chance to sleep

Zack at Joshes Frogs told me I would need to house them in groups of 20 so that when disease breaks out it is limited to one group. I would like to think I could avoid illness for just one winter if I work at it ( is that naive?)I do have every intention of giving them a lot more space, which will automatically require splitting them up into smaller groups, thats just common sence.

I do know that the biggest health risk to exotics is... stupidity, I mean... no, stupidity just about covers it.
Seriously, diet and environment .

So I ordered a small-ish fortune in supplies yesterday and to vary their diet beyond what I ordered I collected termites from fallen trees along with a few small brown ants today while I was walking my dog. The little froggies loved the termites! One little guy did try for the biggest one and ended up with half a termite hanging out of his mouth, I think it freaked him out a bit, he sat completely motionless for at least an hour while it continued to writhe and wiggle.

2:30am kittens need bottles and are letting me know it.

Thank you all in advance for your patience,
DEW

My hat's off to you, you do indeed have your hands more than full! I'm glad you saved these guys, particulalry if they are common Grays (Hyla versicolor is listed as Significantly Rare by the N.C. Natural Heritage Program.) I've never raised tads and froglets so will leave answers to those with more experience than myself in this area, but I wish you all the best of luck and would love to read further updates!

[DEW]

My hat's off to you, you do indeed have your hands more than full! I'm glad you saved these guys, particulalry if they are common Grays (Hyla versicolor is listed as Significantly Rare by the N.C. Natural Heritage Program.) I've never raised tads and froglets so will leave answers to those with more experience than myself in this area, but I wish you all the best of luck and would love to read further updates!

I thought that these guys were not rare? I must have gotten something wrong. I know copes in limited to one county in NC but I thought the Hyla versicolor ( also called common gray tree frog) So, the common gray is not so common?,

Thanks for the info. will look that up in the morning. Ive got 3 hours till kitties have to be fed again.

[irThumper]

Lol, no problem! And I just connected you with the cocci kitty post... lol. I was thinking, "Hmm, where else did I read about someone with frogs and kitties...?" I've been down with a respiratory bug for a week so lacking in sleep myself, lol. Here's info on the Grays in NC. I love GTFs, would love to have had some myself but our state doesn't allow them, *sniff*

[elly]

Hmm, if you have any diseased plants I've read in a thread here that frogs seem to like aphids. You might want to check the nutritional value though.

[DEW]

I'm sorry your not feeling well.Hate it when I am sick and still have to do stuff, there should always e someone to take over all of your chores and then wait on you hand and foot, I have an app that is a service bell, the last time I was sick my husband just happened to be home and I used the heck out of it, I love that app.

[DEW]

My hat's off to you, you do indeed have your hands more than full! I'm glad you saved these guys, particulalry if they are common Grays (Hyla versicolor is listed as Significantly Rare by the N.C. Natural Heritage Program.) I've never raised tads and froglets so will leave answers to those with more experience than myself in this area, but I wish you all the best of luck and would love to read further updates!

I looked it up and you were right, I got it backwards, lol.