Calcium Lack Paralysis or Back Injury???

[elly]

From reading around on the forum, lime green spots seem to be generally a bad sign. People often mention them when a frog is sick or dying. But my frog had them once when I first got him and he's still okay so I don't know. I think my frog had a case of uneven shedding caused by spraying him with water. Now when I mist during the day I try not to hit the frog directly which would remove the protective layer of waxy stuff that keeps him from drying out. At night time I don't think it matters so much since he's ready to do his regular soak/shed thing then.

I'm not surprised that he doesn't want to eat, given the repeated prolapse. And...sorry I don't know about giving a frog emergency calcium, maybe someone else here can help you.

[FrogsFascinated]

Thanks Elly! All of you guys have been a big help ^.^
He's been getting daily baths to keep him moist, since he can't use his back legs to get in and out of his water... and he enjoys them... I wash any dishes in our sink, along with anything else that's in there, and I fill it up about 1 inch, so he can move around with his front legs, without drowning.

On another note, I have pictures now!!! I'm sorry about this first one I didn't realize it was blurry and the glass was spotty till I had it on my PC... And I just took these pics today ;-)

[irThumper]

Thanks Elly! All of you guys have been a big help ^.^
He's been getting daily baths to keep him moist, since he can't use his back legs to get in and out of his water... and he enjoys them... I wash any dishes in our sink, along with anything else that's in there, and I fill it up about 1 inch, so he can move around with his front legs, without drowning.

On another note, I have pictures now!!! I'm sorry about this first one I didn't realize it was blurry and the glass was spotty till I had it on my PC... And I just took these pics today ;-)

Ok....... it's all clear now. This frog is morbidly obese! As a human with the same condition I can assure you, your frog is dying from being too FAT. He needs room to move, he needs a diet that has less fat in it; the obesity could be a big contributor to both the paralysis and the prolapse. Get him into a bigger tank where he can move around. At this point with him being unable to climb I'd at least get him a terrestrial tank that is much larger (other opinions here?) I wouldn't worry about him not eating for a while but the Pedialyte soak is definitely a good idea. I also know that a lot of handling isn't good, but I'd take this guy out daily and just see if he's willing to crawl back and forth... don't want to stress him either though, so it's a c.r.a.p shoot how to manage this.

I also HIGHLY recommend you follow the suggestions given by these fine folks on housing and all other respects. They've been on the frog scene for a good while and have the experience to back up their knowledge. Good luck with Pogo, I hope you can pull him through, I'm rooting for him!

[Louis Charles Bruckner]

What I think what might have happened is that he wedged himself into that tight
area and cut off the blood supply to his legs and suffered some permeant damage.

[irThumper]

What I think what might have happened is that he wedged himself into that high area and cut off the blood supply to his legs and suffered some permeant damage.

Possibly, or it might be temporary. But circulation can be messed up at that weight anyway, poor guy

[Lija]

Sry i wasn't around to respond sooner.


That is very sad! Very very sad situation. I feel very sorry for a frog, that wasn't a life for the guy, that was and still is suffering for the frog. He is not healthy by any means. It is cruel and animal abuse. It is a perfect example of how some frogs want to live, they live through lots of things, including this.

Emily, a frog is not dead yet, so there is still a hope, not much of it though. Please help him before it's too late.

[irThumper]

Lija, what do you think about putting him in a long reptile tank, 20 gal or more? He should have lots of room to crawl around but at his weight I wouldn't even encourage climbing (even if he could) as he could fall and get further injured. Maybe larger round smooth rocks or logs to climb over (but nothing he could get stuck or wedged in) and a shallow easy entry watering receptacle... I want to see this guy get well!

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[irThumper]

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[Lija]

Honestly... At this point I dont have much hope for the guy.
Big tank right now won't help, the guy can't probably move or if he can just barely.

id start with full on hydrotherapy, electrolytes 1:1 with dechlor water every day for 2 weeks, to help flush toxins. if eating - nightcrawlers coated with reptiboost for a week, qt tank. Feeding very small amounts, no more then small earthworm/nightcrawler at a time. And see the progress, review in a week.

[Lija]

Elly, there absolutely can NOT be any superworms in that frogs diet.

i doubt he is able to catch crickets, they are not very nutritious, nightcrawlers would be better. If nkt eating these, then crickets or roaches would be the second choice.

[elly]

also as a note, you might want to think about bathing him in some container that hasn't had dishwashing liquid in it. I'm sure you wash it out carefully before and after but if you forgot it might hurt the frog badly or give you food poisoning. Also I'm glad you're doing the work of moving him to the water since he can't.

[elly]

Twice a week doesn't sound like way too often to feed him, maybe cut down to one insect at a time once or twice a week coated with supplements? I don't know how much fat superworms have. Anybody?

[irThumper]

Twice a week doesn't sound like way too often to feed him, maybe cut down to one insect at a time once or twice a week coated with supplements? I don't know how much fat superworms have. Anybody?

Further up the thread it said they are very fatty and loaded with chitin, which contributes to prolapse (as does the obesity).

I'd get him some crickets and gut load them on fresh vegies & a high calcium diet (Edit: Nix that, I'd do what Lija suggests!)