Help(!) with Grey Tree Frogs

[Rebel]

Thanks everyone for the insights. I have begun using a water conditioner, and while I have it, I may as well treat the water for all my animals. My next step is to quarantine all of my new frogs. Rather than tear down my existing setup (it took years to grow) I am going to try and fit it for an external filter that can maintain the small sump at the at the bottom of the tank. I realize I'm not at that level with this species, but unless I'm mistaken, a dish of water may be too small for breeding purposes. Meantime, in reference to the possibility that pathogens rather than chlorine was the cause of death, I am wondering if the existing tank, if left vacant (of animals) for several months, would once again be safe to use, or if pathogens are likely to be species-specific, and the vivarium could be safely used for an unrelated species of animal. Will keep you posted on my last two greys.

[Mentat]

Myself do not think it was pathogens that caused their demise; although they probably helped give frogs the final blow after their immune systems collapsed . Home Depot Top soil has stuff on it that is not good for any frogs or amphibians. The only soil we recommend for planted frog vivariums is Atlanta Botanical Gardens or ABG type soil. You can buy pre-mix or Google the recipe and mix it yourself. The second problem was chronic chlorine exposure. Amy and others have already given you fixes for both issues. Good luck !

[LilyPad]

Thanks everyone for the insights. I have begun using a water conditioner, and while I have it, I may as well treat the water for all my animals. My next step is to quarantine all of my new frogs. Rather than tear down my existing setup (it took years to grow) I am going to try and fit it for an external filter that can maintain the small sump at the at the bottom of the tank. I realize I'm not at that level with this species, but unless I'm mistaken, a dish of water may be too small for breeding purposes. Meantime, in reference to the possibility that pathogens rather than chlorine was the cause of death, I am wondering if the existing tank, if left vacant (of animals) for several months, would once again be safe to use, or if pathogens are likely to be species-specific, and the vivarium could be safely used for an unrelated species of animal. Will keep you posted on my last two greys.

"Breeding" set ups are only temporary. There is work to get grey tree frogs to breed, they are usually only moved into a breeding set up when they show signs that they're ready to breed. Other than that, they only need a water dish. In the wild, they move away from the water other than at breeding time. Have you looked into your state laws regarding grey tree frogs? Here in WI, we have laws about how many we can own and we cannot sell them because they are a native frog. So breeding them here would be pretty much worthless.

I'm not sure how much time would have to pass in order to get it to the point of safe for another animal, you could take it apart, bleach dip things, and then put it back together.

[Rebel]

They only sell for $3-$4 anyhow, so selling would only be a secondary goal, if that. My main goal with animals is to create naturalistic displays which are self-sustaining and do not cause me to continually purchase plants or animals.

[Rebel]

they only sell for $3-$4 anyhow, so selling would be my secondary goal,if even that. My main purpose with animals is to create naturalistic displays that are self sustaining,at least in the sense that I do not have to continually replenish plants or animals.

[LilyPad]

Then you could skip breeding altogether if you wanted. I've had mine for over 4 years and never bred them. I have found them in amplexus, but it didn't result in eggs. They usually do not sporadically breed, so unless you're actively trying to breed them, putting them through a season, then you do not need to worry about setting up a tank for breeding at all. A water dish (water changed daily) would be plenty sufficient.