Prolapse!!! D:

[irThumper]

He's totally not happy with me right now I did give him two wax worms, then took Jelly out to give her some crickets, she ate 2-3 but wasn't happy about being in the keeper so I let her back out. I put some crickets in with Honey and Shirley and the first thing sHEila did was crawl over there and stare through the glass and try to get to them. He seemed disgusted when I slid a lid between the tanks to block his view, lol!

Good thing I read this about the red wigglers! I assumed an earth worm was just an earth worm... I didn't wind up getting the ones at the feed store though. I took the container out of the fridge and looked in it and didn't see any worms at all, then I sniffed it and the thing reeked of ammonia! I asked a guy how long they had been there, he checked the comp and said "May"-- what, really??? And guess what, he put them right back in the fridge even though I said it should be thrown out.

sHEila isn't going to like his minimalist diet, but I'm going to do what's best for him. I have some smaller crickets now (getting them at Petsmart now, where the sizes are right and the bins always clean) and will try to limit him to a few a night instead of letting him have a big feed.

What about Dubai roaches by the way? Are these very digestible? They don't look like they would be... oh and where can you by good quality earth worms/night crawlers for these guys online?

[elly]

I don't know about the roaches, but they seem like they'd be about as hard to digest as crickets. If you have a Wal-Mart I've gotten my worms there before. You could probably find some cheaper online, but if you wanted some immediately I'd try there.

[irThumper]

I don't know about the roaches, but they seem like they'd be about as hard to digest as crickets. If you have a Wal-Mart I've gotten my worms there before. You could probably find some cheaper online, but if you wanted some immediately I'd try there.

Thanks, Elly I did check and all the bait is out. They switching from fishing to hunting season so probably it. I'm going to check online to see what I can find. I'll be happy when we get out of this apartment into a house (someday *sigh*) so I can culture my own live foods for them! I'm caregiver assist for my senior mother and she wasn't thrilled to hear I wanted to put a worm bin in here, she's already found escaped crickets in her bed, LOL!

[Lija]

Escaped crickets in a bed sounds exciting lol

get nightcrawlers - anywhere they sell fishing supplies. dubia are better then crickets, less chitin, but not all frogs like them, they are slower then crickets.
Wait for 2-3 poops, if all ok then you can carry on whatever you were feeding

[irThumper]

Escaped crickets in a bed sounds exciting lol

get nightcrawlers - anywhere they sell fishing supplies. dubia are better then crickets, less chitin, but not all frogs like them, they are slower then crickets.
Wait for 2-3 poops, if all ok then you can carry on whatever you were feeding

VERY exciting, heh...

Ok, good to know with the less chitin. I checked out some superworms at Petsmart the other day but they were just as bad as a mealy, thought I read somewhere they were softer *shrugs*. Are Dubia true roaches? I saw a pic of someone feeding some to their WTFs in a FB post and they look like big isopods/sowbugs...

[LilyPad]

Yes, they are true roaches. They will not breed unless you set up breeding though, so no worries about them infesting the house.

Superworms really aren't any better than mealies. A little more meat to chitin than mealworms, but same risks and high fat.

I'd do your best to get the night crawlers, I'd be thrilled if my frogs would eat them. I'm stuck feeding crickets though lol.

[elly]

Oh no, escaped crickets! Also check back at your wal mart in case they restock. Mine was out of nightcrawlers for a while because they'd gotten a bad shipment but they recently restocked.

[elly]

Then again, I live south of the pacific NW, so your Wal-Mart might really have stopped ordering worms for the year.

[irThumper]

Yes, they are true roaches. They will not breed unless you set up breeding though, so no worries about them infesting the house.

Superworms really aren't any better than mealies. A little more meat to chitin than mealworms, but same risks and high fat.

I'd do your best to get the night crawlers, I'd be thrilled if my frogs would eat them. I'm stuck feeding crickets though lol.

Yuck! But whatever froggies want, lol... I'll see if I can find a few dubais, if they don't like them I'll find someone else who can use them :P Read recently from a FF member about silk worms being good and having naturally anti-inflammatory properties, how about those? Will definitely round up earth worms, nice thing about them is if they don't like those I'll just over winter them and add them to the community garden come spring


Oh it's been thrilling, Elly... had one bounce off my forehead the other night... yeesh!

[irThumper]

Then again, I live south of the pacific NW, so your Wal-Mart might really have stopped ordering worms for the year.

Yep, I believe they have. Gotta love ordering online though

[Lija]

Silkworms are really weird feeders, they have lots of good stuff, but bad stuff they do have too. They contain thiaminase and are on vet warning list for better-not- feed. Beardies and chams owners swear by them however.

I Always better take safer route and say its better to avoid these if in question. By the way most frogs won't eat these anyway, they don't move much and look weird probably from frog perspective.

you can also try hormworms, not a lot, one may be every now and then if they eat.

[irThumper]

Ok, mealies, super worms and silk worms off the menu. Well guess what, I went to Wallys tonight and they DID have worms-- Canadian night crawlers to be exact, BUT-- every single container was frozen solid as a rock! Wormsicles, ugh!!!

[LilyPad]

Ughh so frustrating. Do you have any rivers/lakes in the area? Most nearby gas stations will have some bait available there.

[irThumper]

I have a couple cousins who are avid fishermen, so I'll have to ask them!

[irThumper]

Normal poop!



sHEila through all this cocci mess has always had poo that was more on the normal side... ish. It got kind of squishy before his prolapse, but he'd over stuffed on crickets that were too big so had really long chunky dry poo with the prolapse. This is the first normal looking poo I've seen from anyone since treating with Metro.