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    Default I've tried, but what is this?

    I love amphibs in general, but I have as much luck id'ing them as I do id'ing weeds in my lawn.

    This guy is defying id. Found him in Central Florida. consulted this list but none of them seemed appropriate (Florida Wildlife Extension at UF/IFAS)

    Suburban location, I suppose this could be someone's terrarium escapee or reject?Name:  Karen's Frog.jpg
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    Default Re: I've tried, but what is this?

    I am awful at IDing frogs from photos, but comparing your picture to the ones from the link the only one it remotely resembles is the Cope's Grey Treefrog.
    1.1.0 - Oophaga Pumilio 'Blue Jeans' (2014 Nicaragua Import)
    1.1.0 - Oophaga Pumilio 'Chirique Grande' F1
    1.1.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Citronella'
    1.2.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Azureus'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'Sipaliwini'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'New River'
    0.0.4 - D. Tinctorius 'Leucomelas'
    0.0.4 - Terribilis 'Mint'
    1.1.0 - R. Ventrimaculatus 'French Guiana'

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    Default Re: I've tried, but what is this?

    How big is it?

    Cuban would be my first guess, they can vary considerably in their pattern. Do you have any photos where the toe-pads are visible? Or a photo from the side?

    Head/eye shape and the pattern look off to be a grey.

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    Default Re: I've tried, but what is this?

    Yeah I would of been shocked if it was a Grey. The texture of the skin is off for a Grey as well, but given the color pattern and what I can see it was the closest looking one. I looked at the Cubans and can see similarities, but the color pattern is way off... i would never had guessed. I am going to crawl back to the vivarium section lol
    1.1.0 - Oophaga Pumilio 'Blue Jeans' (2014 Nicaragua Import)
    1.1.0 - Oophaga Pumilio 'Chirique Grande' F1
    1.1.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Citronella'
    1.2.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Azureus'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'Sipaliwini'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'New River'
    0.0.4 - D. Tinctorius 'Leucomelas'
    0.0.4 - Terribilis 'Mint'
    1.1.0 - R. Ventrimaculatus 'French Guiana'

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    Google "Cuban Treefrog Photos", the range of patterns and colours they come in is pretty amazing. Cuban could be very wrong, I'm partly playing the odds here- tree frog in suburban setting in Florida. They're not something I really have much in the way of first hand experience in though, a few in pet stores and reptile shows. The Florida living wild frog hunters have an advantage

    Grays on the other hand, I've seen hundreds of wild samples. No shame in a wrong guess on an ID, I know I've been wrong hundreds of times. It's how you learn

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    Default Re: I've tried, but what is this?

    Southern Chorus Frog ?

    SUPER video w/ Fla frogs in their natural habitat.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwECjnPBOtw

    Good luck !

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    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

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    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
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    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
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    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
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    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
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    Default Re: I've tried, but what is this?

    It does look like it could possibly be a chorus frog. The body looks right, but not the pattern. Could you show a side picture? It may help in identifying it.

    0.1.0 Psuedacris regilla
    0.1.0 Pseudacris regilla (r.i.p. Green Beauty)
    0.0.1 Bufo boreas boreas? (r.i.p. )
    0.0.4 Dendrobates tinctorius 'Powder Blue'

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    A type of chorus frog is a definite possibility- check the toepads or lack thereof (I can't make them out in this pic). Some can have similar patterns to this one.

    Amphibiaweb's list might also help http://amphibiaweb.org/cgi/amphib_qu...-state_code=FL

    They don't list the Upland Chorus frog as being in Florida, but the OP's link does. It can have a similar pattern.

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    Hey anything is possible when it comes to amphibians and Florida I will research it more in a little bit. Again more pictures would be helpful

    0.1.0 Psuedacris regilla
    0.1.0 Pseudacris regilla (r.i.p. Green Beauty)
    0.0.1 Bufo boreas boreas? (r.i.p. )
    0.0.4 Dendrobates tinctorius 'Powder Blue'

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    Default Re: I've tried, but what is this?

    Looks like it may be a Pseudacris clarkii. They have great color patterns and they look almost identical to this frog
    0.1.0 Pseudacris regilla (r.i.p. Green Beauty)
    0.0.1 Bufo boreas boreas? (r.i.p. )
    0.0.4 Dendrobates tinctorius 'Powder Blue'

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    Default Re: I've tried, but what is this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Strider18 View Post
    Hey anything is possible when it comes to amphibians and Florida I will research it more in a little bit. Again more pictures would be helpful

    0.1.0 Psuedacris regilla
    Thanks for all the input! Sorry, no other pics available. He's off into the piney woods somewhere. If it helps, daytime, "He was hiding among the weeds I was pulling out of the pot , pretending he was dead!!". There is no permanent water within a quarter mile, and only a broad/deep overflow swale that's normally dry. Trees are predominantly slash pine and live oak.

    The markings are striking -- and nothing like any of the shots at the UF page or the Berkeley. I think I saw a reference somewhere to a leopard frog -- but it wasn't native and didn't seem right either.

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    Default Re: I've tried, but what is this?

    No problem I am 90% sure that's its a Psuedacris clarkii since the size, color, shape, and pattern all match that frog

    0.1.0 Psuedacris regilla
    0.1.0 Pseudacris regilla (r.i.p. Green Beauty)
    0.0.1 Bufo boreas boreas? (r.i.p. )
    0.0.4 Dendrobates tinctorius 'Powder Blue'

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    The range maps for Pseudacris clarkii put it a few states away, that would make it unlikely.

    It's not a Leopard Frog, the body shape looks wrong for a Ranid.

    A large local amphibian diversity is a blessing and a curse. Pretty markings no matter what it is though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleChester View Post
    The range maps for Pseudacris clarkii put it a few states away, that would make it unlikely.

    It's not a Leopard Frog, the body shape looks wrong for a Ranid.

    A large local amphibian diversity is a blessing and a curse. Pretty markings no matter what it is though.
    I see that it is a few states away but again, many species get introduced into different states, especially Florida. Again I could be totally wrong but it looks very similar to Pseudacris clarkii
    0.1.0 Pseudacris regilla (r.i.p. Green Beauty)
    0.0.1 Bufo boreas boreas? (r.i.p. )
    0.0.4 Dendrobates tinctorius 'Powder Blue'

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    For sure anything is possible, but finding it out in the semi-wild (as opposed to hopping out of your imported cabbage or in the tropical plant section of home dept or in the parking lot of a reptile expo or something else likely to have come from the Texas area in this case) you pretty much expect there to be a breeding population around. This starts to get unlikely that it's gone unnoticed this far from it's usual range. But, as you say, it's not impossible.

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