Green/White's Tree Frog Help - bloated

[Lisa10]

Hi everyone,

I'm a new member and unfortunately my first posting is asking for some advice about my new frogs. I am a first time frog owner but have experience with aquariums.
I have had my three Green Tree Frogs (also called White's I think) for just over a week. They are all juveniles and about 5cm long.
I am worried because one of them (Borris) is a bit bloated. He/she looked fine until a couple of days ago it looked like there was a bit of bloating around the belly.

So I did some research and it sounded like it might be having trouble passing a poo. (I stumbled across this forum and found some helpful information in threads - thanks guys). So I have tried soaking/bathing the frog in warm water (dechlorinated) for 20 mins the last 2 days and today. The first time I did it I stupidly bathed all 3 frogs together (as I thought it might be beneficial to the other two as well because I have not found many poos in their tank) and one did a poo - but I don't know which frog it belonged to, silly me. So the next two baths I have bathed them individually, but there has not been any poos passed.

So I am just after some advice for what I should do and if anyone can tell from my photo what might be wrong with my frog. I live in a small town so it isn't possible to take him to a vet that is knowledgeable about frogs.

Some other information that might be helpful is that I don't have gravel as substrate in my tank so that couldn't cause an impaction. I am just wondering if I over-fed them a bit the first few days. I have been feeding small crickets but now I'm worried that a couple of the crickets might have been a teeny bit too large.

I appreciate any input you may have. Let me know if there is more information I need to give. Sorry it is all probably a bit jumbled.

Cheers everyone!
Lisa

[LilyPad]

Slightly too large crickets shouldn't cause impaction. It may just be from the heavy feeding, it looks as if that guy was a little too skinny before coming into your care. Here is a great care sheet for you to look over - Frog Forum - White's Tree Frog Care - Litoria caerulea

Please cut and paste the questionnaire and answer all the questions. That should be able to help us out a lot. Being new frogs, you will want to get them fecal tested.

QUESTIONS

1----what 'kind' of frog is it ( what species)
2----please include a photo of the frog
3----Please include a photo of the frog's current enclosure
4----size of enclosure ( W" x D" x H" )
5----# on inhabitants - ( if there is another frog --- is there a size difference ? )
6----has or was the frog kept with a different species or with any other tank mate
7----is there a new tank mate----was the new tank mate quarantined
8----what is the typical humidity level
9----what temperature is maintained
10---what is, specifically, being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure
11---describe the enclosure lighting ( very specifically)
12---describe enclosure maintenance ( water changes, cleaning etc)
13---what kind of water is used
-----for misting
-----for the frog's soaking dish
-----is de-chlorinator used / what brand
14---material(s) used for substrate - be very specific
15---enclosure set up:
-----if recent - describe how the enclosure was cleaned
-----plants( live or artificial) if artificial plants are used are they plastic or fabric
-----describe wood, bark , and background materials
16---when is the last time the frog ate
17---have you found poop lately
18---how often is the frog fed
19---what size feeder is given
20---what other feeders are used as treats
21---what is the frog's main food source
22---do feeders roam free in the enclosure or is the frog bowl fed
23---vitamins - what brand and how often
24---calcium - what brand and how often
25---was the frog without calcium for any period of time
26---approximate age of the frog
27---how long have you owned the frog
28---who cared for the frog before you
29---is the frog wild caught or captive bred
30---how often the frog is handled -- are gloves used ( what kind of gloves)
31---is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area
30---has or was the frog properly quarantined (yes or no)
-----for how long
32---has the frog been treated with any medication:
-----for what
-----name of medication
-----for how long
-----what dose
-----was medication prescribed by a herp vet

[Lisa10]

Hi Amy,

Thank you for your fast reply and for the link to the care sheet. It is good to know that the slightly too large crickets won't cause an impaction.

I won't fill in the questionnaire at this stage because I have just checked my frogs this morning and the one I was worried about doesn't look bloated any more (thank goodness!). I think I am being overly cautious with them! Thanks for the questionnaire though, I can see that it would be helpful and I will definitely fill it in if I have a problem in the future.

I also emailed the breeder I bought them from and she thinks I need to increase the amount I'm feeding them (they do look a little bit scrawnier than the day I first got them and I hadn't fed them as much the last few days since I was worried about the bloating). She also said I need to increase the temp as it's been 23-26 and increasing should help them feed. The heater I'm using is an aquarium heater in the water, and it doesn't seem to be keeping the temp stable enough so I have ordered a heat mat and thermostat that will arrive tomorrow.

Thanks again for your reply!