Carols, those ARE the AGTF, it's Vera and Vern. And Russ, these guys are really easy to care for as long as you keep their temps & humidity where it should be, dust their crickets or roaches with suppliments and give them fresh frog safe water you'll enjoy them. They don't hide during the day, ususally hang out on the glass or on the leaves of the plants, and they don't freak out when held either. And I don't hibernate them during the winter either so you do need a food source for them and I can give you some great places to get red runner roaches if you choose to go with that, that's what I've always feed. The fact that you're coming to frog forum for advise is a great start in being keeper of the our froggy friends.