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    Default Ranitomeya ventrimaculata - Breeding Thread

    Hey all who take the time to stop by! My name is Paul and I have a pair of R. Vents. They have made 2 previous attempts at mating, but with sad results. The first single Egg they deposited did not make it. Next they deposited 4 eggs and one started to develop into a tadpole before it failed all others failed in the egg stage as well. We have a fresh clutch of eggs as of today 10-14-14 and thought I would start a thread to document their progress. 3rd times the charm right?


    This clutch was deposited in a small collection of water in the corner of a film canister. In 5 - 7 days we should start to see tadpoles forming and will know which ones are fertile and which ones aren't.

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    Very nice Paul! Keep us updated on these babies!

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    Default Re: Ranitomeya ventrimaculata - Breeding Thread

    Wow !
    They look great!
    Egg #1 one looks to be furthest along.
    My 2 cents-----they all look fertilized to me

    Good luck , Paul
    Soooo, what will you do with 8 vent froglets
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    Default Re: Ranitomeya ventrimaculata - Breeding Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by flybyferns View Post
    Wow !
    They look great!
    Egg #1 one looks to be furthest along.
    My 2 cents-----they all look fertilized to me

    Good luck , Paul
    Soooo, what will you do with 8 vent froglets

    Thanks for the well wishes everyone!

    Hopefully I can find them new homes through sale or trade. I will setup temp homes for them in the mean time, but I have a bit of time before I need to cross that bridge. I just hope some of the eggs make it to the tadpole stage this time. Was very sad with the last clutch and watching the forming egg fail
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    1.2.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Azureus'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'Sipaliwini'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'New River'
    0.0.4 - D. Tinctorius 'Leucomelas'
    0.0.4 - Terribilis 'Mint'
    1.1.0 - R. Ventrimaculatus 'French Guiana'

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    I am sure you will find a nice home for them and I wish you the best of luck with this new clutch!

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    Yay!! Good luck!
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    Default Re: Ranitomeya ventrimaculata - Breeding Thread

    Awesome for you Paul! Sorry about the first two clutches, but I'm sure this one will work out
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    Default Ranitomeya ventrimaculata - Breeding Thread

    The male has spent a fair amount of time in the canister. I caught it empty yesterday and snapped a quick picture. I am using a flash to get these so I am going to limit the pictures I take until they either make it to tadpole stage and get moved or fail, but here is the Picture from 10-16-2014


    1.1.0 - Oophaga Pumilio 'Blue Jeans' (2014 Nicaragua Import)
    1.1.0 - Oophaga Pumilio 'Chirique Grande' F1
    1.1.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Citronella'
    1.2.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Azureus'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'Sipaliwini'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'New River'
    0.0.4 - D. Tinctorius 'Leucomelas'
    0.0.4 - Terribilis 'Mint'
    1.1.0 - R. Ventrimaculatus 'French Guiana'

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    Keep it up Paul! I am really hoping that you get it to work out and get lots of pretty froglets

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    Default Re: Ranitomeya ventrimaculata - Breeding Thread

    Well 7 of the 8 eggs have failed and the 8th one doesn't look good. The research I did pointed to the Vents commonly laying the eggs in water. I have let the last 3 clutches stay in the water they were played in and have had nothing but failure. Lynn has been giving me great advice through this and until we read that had discussed keeping the eggs out of standing water, but decided to leave them be if that is where they were being deposited. Well this last clutch was the final test of the submerged egg method. I have emptied all the film canister of water and am taking great care to not get any excess water in them. I will do my best to keep the next clutch moist but not swimming and hopefully will break through this invisible wall that is killing the eggs.

    2 weeks or so and we should be able to star this all over from the beginning.


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    1.1.0 - Oophaga Pumilio 'Blue Jeans' (2014 Nicaragua Import)
    1.1.0 - Oophaga Pumilio 'Chirique Grande' F1
    1.1.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Citronella'
    1.2.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Azureus'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'Sipaliwini'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'New River'
    0.0.4 - D. Tinctorius 'Leucomelas'
    0.0.4 - Terribilis 'Mint'
    1.1.0 - R. Ventrimaculatus 'French Guiana'

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    Default Re: Ranitomeya ventrimaculata - Breeding Thread

    I'm sorry Paul, that is very frustrating! Let us know how things go next time!
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    Sorry about that Paul I know how frustrating it can be trying to hatch and keep any baby creature alive. Best of luck with the next clutch.

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    Good luck with the next batch!
    These are my R. Ventrimaculata Black Waters first clutch and i seem to have good luck, 4 out of 4 have developed! They are still in their jelly, i'm going to keep a close eye on them.


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    My Vents seem to be slow learners lol. They were in a cup about to deposit some eggs, but stupid me didn't see them in there in time and opened the tank to mist. They decided I was rude and stopped all that mess for the day it seemed. Hoping to get a clutch tomorrow. I have changed a few things with their canisters for this next clutch so hopefully They (and I) have better luck.

    Where did yours deposit their eggs? Lots of conflicting information out there. This time I angled all the canisters at a 45 degrees and one of them is sitting horizontal. They were in the horizontal one this morning.
    1.1.0 - Oophaga Pumilio 'Blue Jeans' (2014 Nicaragua Import)
    1.1.0 - Oophaga Pumilio 'Chirique Grande' F1
    1.1.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Citronella'
    1.2.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Azureus'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'Sipaliwini'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'New River'
    0.0.4 - D. Tinctorius 'Leucomelas'
    0.0.4 - Terribilis 'Mint'
    1.1.0 - R. Ventrimaculatus 'French Guiana'

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    They were deposited into the film canister in the top left, exactly how it is sitting in the picture. I am also finding lots of conflicting info, especially on tadpole care (which i am doing a lot of research on at the moment) I have also read that breeding the Black Waters has been proven difficult and unsuccessful from what i have read on some online forums, i guess i got lucky.

    I'm going to check the cannister in a few days to see if they deposit anymore, i wouldnt be surprised if there is some in the broms.


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    Mine lay a new clutch nearly every 2 weeks (give or take a day). Several sites said to setup the canisters with distilled water. I had failures 3 clutches in a row with that method. The canisters are now in 4 spots around the tank and I am letting some water from the misting to collect in the bottom. One of the canisters is setup laying nearly horizontal. That one is the one the male has been spending a lot of time these last few days in and around. I wont be surprised to find eggs in there in the next day or 2. Hoping that I have better luck.

    Your not quite tadpoles look great! Keep me in the loop on how they progress
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    1.1.0 - Oophaga Pumilio 'Chirique Grande' F1
    1.1.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Citronella'
    1.2.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Azureus'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'Sipaliwini'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'New River'
    0.0.4 - D. Tinctorius 'Leucomelas'
    0.0.4 - Terribilis 'Mint'
    1.1.0 - R. Ventrimaculatus 'French Guiana'

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    Still waiting on the next clutch. I was a jerk and opened the tank to mist and caught them in the act. They quickly stopped and have taken a break. The last few days the male has been calling like crazy so I have kept my distance so I don't spoil the mood again.... Stupid human
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    1.1.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Citronella'
    1.2.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Azureus'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'Sipaliwini'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'New River'
    0.0.4 - D. Tinctorius 'Leucomelas'
    0.0.4 - Terribilis 'Mint'
    1.1.0 - R. Ventrimaculatus 'French Guiana'

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    Haha I would have stopped to :P Keep us updated

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    The hardest part is keeping some distance when you are so intrigued and excited for some eggs/tads!

    Earlier in the week we had a nasty cold spell and drop in temperature, which may be the reason why 3 of my tads didn't make it.. The only one that made it was the one that first popped out of the egg. His/her eyes are noticeable now, and is about 4 times the size as the previous pictured tads.

    I heard them calling for the first time ever this morning when i went in to feed them, they were going crazy, so hopefully i have another clutch within the next few days.

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    Still haven't seen a new clutch. It has gotten cold here. The frog room may have dropped a degree overall, but I am starting to think that slight dip has stopped them for the season. I might pump the heat up a bit and see if I can't keep them going year round. Still lots and lots of calling so we will see.
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    1.1.0 - Oophaga Pumilio 'Chirique Grande' F1
    1.1.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Citronella'
    1.2.0 - D. Tinctorius 'Azureus'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'Sipaliwini'
    0.0.2 - D. Tinctorius 'New River'
    0.0.4 - D. Tinctorius 'Leucomelas'
    0.0.4 - Terribilis 'Mint'
    1.1.0 - R. Ventrimaculatus 'French Guiana'

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