Well, I gave in! I saw some baby WTF's at Petco tonight as I was picking up crickets to feed my outdoor residential PTF friends, and I thought "I'll just look.... no harm in just looking... right?" After all, I'm not done setting up, I'm waiting to get everything JUST right to get some in the spring... *SNORT* Riiiight! Well I see the babies, they'd just come in this week, and a pale one caught my eye-- was that a...Honey?? I asked someone if I could get a hands on look so they obliged and let me handle the frogs (amazingly) maybe it was the fact I'd been buying crickets from them since July and was wearing a cute little froggy pin on my ball cap, who knows. Well I determined that the pale frisky one must surely be a Honey, she wasn't bright green, blue green dark green or brown when out of the corner of my eye I saw a greenish brown froggy with-- snowflakes! I had to think, don't the plain colored ones not get white spots here and there until they are much older, not babies? But these were sprinkled over their backs. I fished around and found a nice plump bluish green one with bigger white spots along the sides and a nice sprinkle of white flecks on her(?) back, and then I saw what made up my mind to get them out of there-- and maybe this was stupid, heck getting them before I'm ready is stupid! But I saw one little frog take a HUGE kerap on another frogs head... and then she prolapsed! D: I'd seen one shedding when I'd just looked in earlier, and all that substrate was going right in her mouth, wonder if it was the same frog. So I told them about it and showed them the frog with the 'roid and told them they better take her and out her in a hospital tank with NO substrate but damp paper towels, so I hope they did (they took her out while I was there), and I scooped up the pale baby and the snowflakey baby and brought them home. I'm glad I made the decision though, because one clerk told me they'd just lost 6 WTFs that came in a new shipment because some moron accidentally put them in a reptile enclosure and they baked to death! I just hope these two aren't full of substrate. The snowflakey one pooped in her shipping container so she's not clogged anyway, more than likely... I hope!

I'm now sitting here with them in a plastic canister jar with a few air holes at either end. They tried to give them to me in a carboard box (really???) and I insisted they give me whatever plastic shipping containers they had to take them each home in. The containers were so shallow that I wonder if they'd had baby snakes instead of frogs in them... both plastic containers have wet paper towels they put in from the store. They were in an 80 degree tank with 67% humidity at the store, it was 75 in here with 57% humidity (still is) when I got home, so I've had my desk lap on over them (they're covered with a very thin white flour sack towel) and the temp went up to 81 (I have a heat/humidity gauge sitting on the canister) so I moved the lamp away a bit and the temp is now 79. The humidity here (near my comp) is 52% and dropping, but they are much more humid in the canister I'd think since I added more water (double filtered spring water) to the shipping containers. The Honey girl who was so frisky and all over the place at the store (clear out onto the floor actually! but she's ok) is now calm and up in one corner of the canister while the blue green snowflake one who was so calm and in the corner of the cage at the store in all over the place. I'm worried about her bumping her nose, which is why I put the towel over them to try and calm her. They were just dumping the crickets in their cage, and I know babies need to be fed every day, but I don't want to just have crickets loose in with them. Would feeding them 2-3 per frog in a dish once a day be fine, or should I break it up into two feedings a day? Also, I have a 5 gal critter keeper, would that be fine to keep them in until their main environment is fixed up? I don't want to worry about anyone getting hurt. Right now I'm soaking their water dish, and a couple of small ceramic/terracotta cups for them to sit on, in filtered spring water (which I'll change out a couple times) after washing them in a bit of Dawn dish liquid (technically I know that's not supposed to be done, but the pots were questionable) and then rinsing them in a combo of hot tap water and hydrogen peroxide (we don't have any bleach)... I hope this will be ok.

Now, they've been sitting here at 79 degrees for the last hour almost, and the temp was 80 before that (it's 10:45 here now, we got home around 8:17. When the lights go off in my plant room (which is usually 77 in the day and goes down to 72-75 at night, depending on how warm/cold the day has been) My long 15 gal tank I kept the PTF's in has the light off and it is now at 73 (it's closest to my door) I've left the T5 grow light on over my 20 hi African violet tanks and inside that is still 77.9, I also left the T8 grow light on over my AVs that are not in a tank but sitting on a table, they are at 77. Should I put the 5 gal critter keeper these guys will temporarily be in near the warmest spot and just leave those plant lights on for tonight? Or will they be ok if the temps drop down to 73-75 at night with the lights off? I never had to worry about this with my native frog friends...

(To be continued, going to go check temp in middle of room again)