shy cuban tree frog

[simonlaprise]

hi i have 3 cuban tree frog in one enclosure, one of them started acting weird, it spends 95% of is its time in the water hiding under a rock ( theres a small pouch of air) while the 2 others a just hanging all around the vivarium. is this a normal behavior or should i feel concerned , should i remove the aquatic part ?

[simonlaprise]

thats where he sleeps and at night he goes underwater , im starting to worry about him/her ,

[LilyPad]

Please copy/paste and fill this out so we can get an idea of what is going on here. Also, make sure you include a full pic of the vivarium and the frog. Thanks!

QUESTIONS

1----what 'kind' of frog is it ( what species)
2----please include a photo of the frog
3----Please include a photo of the frog's current enclosure
4----size of enclosure ( W" x D" x H" )
5----# on inhabitants - ( if there is another frog --- is there a size difference ? )
6----has or was the frog kept with a different species or with any other tank mate
7----is there a new tank mate----was the new tank mate quarantined
8----what is the typical humidity level
9----what temperature is maintained
10---what is, specifically, being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure
11---describe the enclosure lighting ( very specifically)
12---describe enclosure maintenance ( water changes, cleaning etc)
13---what kind of water is used
-----for misting
-----for the frog's soaking dish
-----is de-chlorinator used / what brand
14---material(s) used for substrate - be very specific
15---enclosure set up:
-----if recent - describe how the enclosure was cleaned
-----plants( live or artificial) if artificial plants are used are they plastic or fabric
-----describe wood, bark , and background materials
16---when is the last time the frog ate
17---have you found poop lately
18---how often is the frog fed
19---what size feeder is given
20---what other feeders are used as treats
21---what is the frog's main food source
22---do feeders roam free in the enclosure or is the frog bowl fed
23---vitamins - what brand and how often
24---calcium - what brand and how often
25---was the frog without calcium for any period of time
26---approximate age of the frog
27---how long have you owned the frog
28---who cared for the frog before you
29---is the frog wild caught or captive bred
30---how often the frog is handled -- are gloves used ( what kind of gloves)
31---is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area
30---has or was the frog properly quarantined (yes or no)
-----for how long
32---has the frog been treated with any medication:
-----for what
-----name of medication
-----for how long
-----what dose
-----was medication prescribed by a herp vet

[simonlaprise]

1----what 'kind' of frog is it ( what species): cuban tree frog
2----please include a photo of the frog :see above
3----Please include a photo of the frog's current enclosure
4----size of enclosure ( W" x D" x H" ) 24-24-24inch
5----# on inhabitants - ( if there is another frog --- is there a size difference ? ) 3 cuban tree frog
6----has or was the frog kept with a different species or with any other tank mate : no
7----is there a new tank mate----was the new tank mate quarantined : no
8----what is the typical humidity level: 80%
9----what temperature is maintained: yes
10---what is, specifically, being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure: heat cables and heat pads, and uvb bulb
11---describe the enclosure lighting ( very specifically) uvb lighting 6500k
12---describe enclosure maintenance ( water changes, cleaning etc) i change water almost twice a week
13---what kind of water is used :tap
-----for misting : tap
-----for the frog's soaking dish: tap
-----is de-chlorinator used / what brand
14---material(s) used for substrate - be very specific : tropical soil, tropical moss, sphagnum moss, ground moss, tree bark
15---enclosure set up:
-----if recent - describe how the enclosure was cleaned: aquarium cleaning set
-----plants( live or artificial) if artificial plants are used are they plastic or fabric : all live , diffenbachia , spider plant and some vines
-----describe wood, bark , and background materials: every pieces of wood went in the oven to kill bacterias
16---when is the last time the frog ate: 1 week
17---have you found poop lately: yes
18---how often is the frog fed: im trying every second days
19---what size feeder is given: 1/2 crickets
20---what other feeders are used as treats: none
21---what is the frog's main food source: crickets
22---do feeders roam free in the enclosure or is the frog bowl fed: roam free
23---vitamins - what brand and how often
24---calcium - what brand and how often :d3 twice a week
25---was the frog without calcium for any period of time: nope
26---approximate age of the frog: still young
27---how long have you owned the frog: 2 week
28---who cared for the frog before you: local breeder
29---is the frog wild caught or captive bred: captive bred
30---how often the frog is handled -- are gloves used ( what kind of gloves) : never handled
31---is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area:low traffic
30---has or was the frog properly quarantined (yes or no):no
-----for how long
32---has the frog been treated with any medication: no

[simonlaprise]

bump! anybody ?

[Frogman1031]

I don't think that humidity has to be that high.

What's the temperature? All you wrote was "yes"

Is declorinator used? If not then the water is going to be very toxic to the frogs.

All the substrate you listed except the tropical soil is an impaction risk. I would remove that stuff ASAP

Since the crickets are roaming free the impaction risk is much greater as well

You need to use the calcium every other feeding and multivitamins once a week.

The frog may still be getting used to his or her habitat.

I would quarantine ALL of the frogs anyway. If they end up having a disease then you will have to gut and disinfect the whole tank before adding ANYTHING else. Also, to monitor poop.

Is there a size difference between the frogs???

Sounds like the frog is stressed due to something in its environment. Whether it's another frog or chemicals I do not know

[deranged chipmunk]

i wouldn't go freaking out just yet. Surprisingly, some tree frogs just like water. my white's absolutely loved hanging out in their "spa", and i know heather's cuban spends most of it's time soaking in his water dish. i would give it a few days and see what happens. as long as he/she is eating and pooping, then it may just be the frog being a frog.

[simonlaprise]

took em out in a temporary hospital tank to fix terrarium thanks for help guys ,i took out all the tropical moss , now i got to see why he was stressed

[simonlaprise]

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