Why won't my Red Eye eat? Is she behaving normally?

[DigitalPunk]

Some frogs deal with being handled better than others, but they all do see us as a predator and can stress them out. The bigger worry is the oils and soap/lotions/sweat/insert other chemical here that could be on your skin. All frogs absorb moisture through their skin and can get poisoned or become ill from contact with human skin.

Ask petco to see if this frog was Captive Bred or wild caught. Odds are it is wild caught which will lead to them being more stressed out initially. Wild Caught frogs just went through be taken from their home and shipped halfway across the world. Then taken by you home and put in a cage.

Keep doing what you said previously. Offer fresh food nightly. Uneaten crickets can be put back in with the other crickets so they can eat and drink so they are ready to be food another night. Change the water everyday and try to not stalk him to much until he adjusts to his new environment.

What size of enclosure is he/she in? I looks like a 10g tank. This will be fine for the first 30 - 60 days or so but you will want to move him/her into something taller after that. Tree frogs are aboreal and do not like being down on the ground. This is most likely why He/She is sleeping as close to the top of the tank as possible. Your frog looks like it is at least a sub adult if not an adult. You will want to look at 24" to 36" tall enclosures for him/her.

The 10 gallon should really be setup like a hospital tank / Quarantine tank. No Soil, no plants (some plant clippings for hiding and climbing on is fine) a water bowl, and Damp (use Dechlorinated water for soaking the paper towels, misting, and the water bowl) unprinted paper towels as a substrate. This type of setup will help you get to know your frog and allow you to see any poop. With your frog being a potential wild caught animal I HIGHLY recommend you do 2 fecal tests 2 weeks apart to make sure he/she does not have any parasites.

[MantidBro]

Some frogs deal with being handled better than others, but they all do see us as a predator and can stress them out. The bigger worry is the oils and soap/lotions/sweat/insert other chemical here that could be on your skin. All frogs absorb moisture through their skin and can get poisoned or become ill from contact with human skin.

Ask petco to see if this frog was Captive Bred or wild caught. Odds are it is wild caught which will lead to them being more stressed out initially. Wild Caught frogs just went through be taken from their home and shipped halfway across the world. Then taken by you home and put in a cage.

Keep doing what you said previously. Offer fresh food nightly. Uneaten crickets can be put back in with the other crickets so they can eat and drink so they are ready to be food another night. Change the water everyday and try to not stalk him to much until he adjusts to his new environment.

What size of enclosure is he/she in? I looks like a 10g tank. This will be fine for the first 30 - 60 days or so but you will want to move him/her into something taller after that. Tree frogs are aboreal and do not like being down on the ground. This is most likely why He/She is sleeping as close to the top of the tank as possible. Your frog looks like it is at least a sub adult if not an adult. You will want to look at 24" to 36" tall enclosures for him/her.

The 10 gallon should really be setup like a hospital tank / Quarantine tank. No Soil, no plants (some plant clippings for hiding and climbing on is fine) a water bowl, and Damp (use Dechlorinated water for soaking the paper towels, misting, and the water bowl) unprinted paper towels as a substrate. This type of setup will help you get to know your frog and allow you to see any poop. With your frog being a potential wild caught animal I HIGHLY recommend you do 2 fecal tests 2 weeks apart to make sure he/she does not have any parasites.

My frogs dont have to worry about chemicals being on my hands so much. Im actually quite sensitive as well. Hmm im always clammy too, maybe IM a frog! :P well anyways i dont use cologne or spray or lotion. I really only use shampoo, and bars of soap, usually dove. honestly even deodorant i dont use as often as most people because not only is it known for being a carcinogen, but i have negative reactions to just about every kind there is! despite all this, i still wash my hands with antibacterial soap before handling any frog of mine, for te sake of germs and my sweaty, salty skin. And i rinse thoroughly, being sure not to leave a single trace. I even be sure to dry them with a new towel. ive heard of people wearing powder free gloves, would that be best?

Okay ill see if ican call petco tomorrow. I dont blame the little one for being stressed! id be stressed too. Animals are more like people than many seem to understand. If it would stress us out... Itd stress them out! I personally think that i have more of an animal mind than a human mind... LOL.

Just put new crickets in, ley te oyher back in the container to eat and such. Just changed the water too, before Frenchy woke up. Ive stopped stalking him, i have been extra careful today. I move the blanket, the "curtain", so only my eye can see through and nothing else. I dont think Frenchy even saw me, she was more active than usual. She jumped down into the cricket bowl, didnt eat any, but started doing those shedding movements. I slid a video behind the curtain so i could get footage of it and post it here. I didnt see any skin coming off but she was definitely doing shedding movements.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0evV...ature=youtu.be And she turned a darker green color during that process. What does this mean? after that she had quite a big poop, which i broke apart and took photos of. Looks healthy to me, and wasnt horrible smelling, just a tad smelly, but nothing absolutely horrible.


She laid it in the water bowl so it got wet.

Seeing all that, makes me realise how much they really hate being watched! my gray tree frog isnt like that. Goes to show that different species are just that, different.


Yeah i was thinking subadult/adult as well. Shes about 3" from snout to vent. i was planning to move her to something bigger as well. I just have to buy a new screen for the lid for that one. Thats one that can be put to stand tall, like 3 feet tall. The one i have now is about 1 1/2 feet tall.

[DigitalPunk]

Yes powder free gloves are best. Even the cleanest we can try to get our skin is still risky with frogs.

Pooping is a good sign!!

They are very skitish when they shed. It is a very vulnerable time for them (great video of it by the way). Sometimes it is hard to see, but they are sucking the skin from their body into the corners of their mouth and eating it.

Reds change into their hunting cloths at night when they are comfortable and will turn that shade of dark green. During the day they will attempt to match what they are sleeping on. One of my reds fell asleep next to the little blue LED light of the Ceramic Heat emitter dome one night and his back leg and shoulder turned an almost blue color to try and blend it. I have seen them stay dar during the day if they are sleeping on an especially dark leaf.

All of her actions and behavior points to her settling in. Keep doing what you are doing and she will eat for you

3" sounds like you go a female and most likely an adult (since she is at her max size). Males tend to be 2 - 2.5 inches

One other pro tip is Reds will not over eat. They will stop once they are full so feel free to put 6 - 8 crickets in the bowl for her each night and let her eat what she needs. I have noticed that if you put to many crickets in one bowl the reds wont go in to get any.... I wouldn't dive into a bowl with 20 crickets in it either lol.

Keep us updated! Beautiful frog btw!

[MantidBro]

Yes powder free gloves are best. Even the cleanest we can try to get our skin is still risky with frogs.

Pooping is a good sign!!

They are very skitish when they shed. It is a very vulnerable time for them (great video of it by the way). Sometimes it is hard to see, but they are sucking the skin from their body into the corners of their mouth and eating it.

Reds change into their hunting cloths at night when they are comfortable and will turn that shade of dark green. During the day they will attempt to match what they are sleeping on. One of my reds fell asleep next to the little blue LED light of the Ceramic Heat emitter dome one night and his back leg and shoulder turned an almost blue color to try and blend it. I have seen them stay dar during the day if they are sleeping on an especially dark leaf.

All of her actions and behavior points to her settling in. Keep doing what you are doing and she will eat for you

3" sounds like you go a female and most likely an adult (since she is at her max size). Males tend to be 2 - 2.5 inches

One other pro tip is Reds will not over eat. They will stop once they are full so feel free to put 6 - 8 crickets in the bowl for her each night and let her eat what she needs. I have noticed that if you put to many crickets in one bowl the reds wont go in to get any.... I wouldn't dive into a bowl with 20 crickets in it either lol.

Keep us updated! Beautiful frog btw!

Okay thanks I think I'll start using them. We've got some in the house.

Yeah I was thinking so too! No parasites or blood or anything abnormal in the feces which is also a good sign.

She's been making those shedding movement since I got her. That's 3 nights. Is that normal? Are they supposed to shed all at once, or does it happened over the span of a few days? I was nervous to take a video after realising just how sensitive they are mentally but I wanted to be able to post it here and get opinions, particularly yours. That's really interesting, that they suck their skin into their mouth and eat it! So that's why they open their mouth up wide huh? I thought they were trying to tear the skin, kind of break out of it, so it'd be easier to slide off. That's very fascinating.

Oh really, they change color? Awesome! See, I read multiple care sheets and did endless research (yeah, I'm still researching, lol), and I haven't once read about these two things. Guess there's always something new to learn!

Yeah, last night I felt more relaxed about it all, she did indeed seem to be settling in.

She doesn't go in her water bowls hardly ever, is that normal? Maybe cause I'd had the humidity around 80%? It's closer to 70% now. Do Red Eyes even need to rest in their water bowls that much, considering how high the humidity is? Are they really only for if the humidity goes to low?

I was thinking she's female too, due to her being 3". I haven't got an exact measurement but she looks 3" to me. I'll do a measurement in a bit since she's asleep. So cool, the film that covers her eyes. Looks like the veins in a leaf.

Yeah I read that, that they don't over eat. I put 4 crickets in the bowl last night. Lol I was thinking exactly that - I had but 7 in the night before, but was thinking, hmm, I wouldn't want to jump into a bowl full of crickets, they're too tickle-y and crawl-y, let's reduce the number a bit.

I'll definitely keep you updated! Yeah she's amazing, I'm so lucky to have one. Never thought I'd get one. What an intriguing pet!

Thanks for all your help man!

[DigitalPunk]

No they don't soak in the water bowl to often. When they do they will get on the edge and stick their butts in the water lol.

Shedding multiple times like that is probably normal given what she has gone through. She was probably very dehydrated after the shipping. I wouldn't worry about it. I have 5 reds and it seems they are always shedding when they first wake up.

[MantidBro]

No they don't soak in the water bowl to often. When they do they will get on the edge and stick their butts in the water lol.

Shedding multiple times like that is probably normal given what she has gone through. She was probably very dehydrated after the shipping. I wouldn't worry about it. I have 5 reds and it seems they are always shedding when they first wake up.

Lol shes had her butt in the water a few times but only for like a minute, i didnt even consider it soaking, but i guess she was and thats just all she needed.

Okay cool, thanks :-)