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    Default Sick Firebelly?

    Hi all!

    It's been a while since I've posted on here--due to my crazy schedule this semester in college, but now I'm having some concern over one of my FBT's.

    He's been very lethargic, and though we are having a big heat wave here in a Southern California, he's ALOT more lethargic than my other guys. I've tried to feed him, and it's almost like he doesn't notice the wax worms in front of him. And if he does seem to notice, he'll leap aimlessly. Another big red flag is his posture. He's been laying his head down very flat--which, from what I understand, is an indicator of poor health. He'll attempt to perk his head upright, but he immediately drops it down. When he drops his head back down it's almost robotic. I've been sitting here trying to think of a way to describe it, but it's difficult. All I can say is that it's not a fluid motion. It starts from an upright position, lowers a little, pauses, lowers a little, pauses...and does this all the way down until his head is flat on the ground. It happens rather quickly, and it's almost a jittery motion.

    I should add that I recently lost one of my girls. In retrospect, she seemed lethargic from the get-go. But I had always thought that she was just mellow.

    My current boy, though, is usually very aggressive and active--so this behavior is entirely abnormal for him.

    I'm thinking that I should seclude him, but I'm concerned about the stress it may cause. As soon as I secluded my girl, she died 2 days later.

    I'd really appreciate any thoughts or ideas anyone has.

    Thanks guys!


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    Default Re: Sick Firebelly?

    Teeny, I'm sorry your frog is not feeling well and that you lost one Please copy/paste and fill out the questions so that we can help you figure out what is going on here.


    - by cutting and pasting the questions below into the forum area for the frog species you need assistance with.
    - try to answer as many questions as possible.
    - if you do not know an answer to a question say "I don't know" rather than leaving it blank.


    QUESTIONS

    1----what 'kind' of frog is it ( what species)
    2----please include a photo of the frog
    3----Please include a photo of the frog's current enclosure
    4----size of enclosure ( W" x D" x H" )
    5----# on inhabitants - ( if there is another frog --- is there a size difference ? )
    6----has or was the frog kept with a different species or with any other tank mate
    7----is there a new tank mate----was the new tank mate quarantined
    8----what is the typical humidity level
    9----what temperature is maintained
    10---what is, specifically, being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure
    11---describe the enclosure lighting ( very specifically)
    12---describe enclosure maintenance ( water changes, cleaning etc)
    13---what kind of water is used
    -----for misting
    -----for the frog's soaking dish
    -----is de-chlorinator used / what brand
    14---material(s) used for substrate - be very specific
    15---enclosure set up:
    -----if recent - describe how the enclosure was cleaned
    -----plants( live or artificial) if artificial plants are used are they plastic or fabric
    -----describe wood, bark , and background materials
    16---when is the last time the frog ate
    17---have you found poop lately
    18---how often is the frog fed
    19---what size feeder is given
    20---what other feeders are used as treats
    21---what is the frog's main food source
    22---do feeders roam free in the enclosure or is the frog bowl fed
    23---vitamins - what brand and how often
    24---calcium - what brand and how often
    25---was the frog without calcium for any period of time
    26---approximate age of the frog
    27---how long have you owned the frog
    28---who cared for the frog before you
    29---is the frog wild caught or captive bred
    30---how often the frog is handled -- are gloves used ( what kind of gloves)
    31---is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area
    30---has or was the frog properly quarantined (yes or no)
    -----for how long
    32---has the frog been treated with any medication:
    -----for what
    -----name of medication
    -----for how long
    -----what dose
    -----was medication prescribed by a herp vet
    2.0.3 Hyla versicolor "Eastern Gray Tree Frogs"
    2.2.0 Agalychnis callidryas "Red Eyed Tree Frogs"

    0.0.3 Dendrobates auratus "Turquoise and Bronze"
    0.0.1 Anaxyrus fowleri "Fowler's Toad"



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