my pacman frog misty

[eyesthatrock]

hello everyone my pacman frog misty has not been eating at all and it, has been 8 days please help me ASAP please i love her so much

[Frogman1031]

We will need MANY more details and information in order to help you. Should have reported this sooner. Please answer the following questions immediately!



QUESTIONS


1----what 'kind' of frog is it ( what species)
2----please include a photo of the frog
3----Please include a photo of the frog's current enclosure
4----size of enclosure ( W" x D" x H" )
5----# on inhabitants - ( if there is another frog --- is there a size difference ? )
6----has or was the frog kept with a different species or with any other tank mate
7----is there a new tank mate----was the new tank mate quarantined
8----what is the typical humidity level
9----what temperature is maintained
10---what is, specifically, being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure
11---describe the enclosure lighting ( very specifically)
12---describe enclosure maintenance ( water changes, cleaning etc)
13---what kind of water is used
-----for misting
-----for the frog's soaking dish
-----is de-chlorinator used / what brand
14---material(s) used for substrate - be very specific
15---enclosure set up:
-----if recent - describe how the enclosure was cleaned
-----plants( live or artificial) if artificial plants are used are they plastic or fabric
-----describe wood, bark , and background materials
16---when is the last time the frog ate
17---have you found poop lately
18---how often is the frog fed
19---what size feeder is given
20---what other feeders are used as treats
21---what is the frog's main food source
22---do feeders roam free in the enclosure or is the frog bowl fed
23---vitamins - what brand and how often
24---calcium - what brand and how often
25---was the frog without calcium for any period of time
26---approximate age of the frog
27---how long have you owned the frog
28---who cared for the frog before you
29---is the frog wild caught or captive bred
30---how often the frog is handled -- are gloves used ( what kind of gloves)
31---is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area
30---has or was the frog properly quarantined (yes or no)
-----for how long
32---has the frog been treated with any medication:
-----for what
-----name of medication
-----for how long
-----what dose
-----was medication prescribed by a herp vet

[eyesthatrock]

hey frogman1031 my frog is a pacman ceratophrys ornata and its a female and its year and 3 months and she is by her self in a 20 to 30 gl tank, and theres fake plants and im useing coco fiber and i have a water dish and im useing reptisafe water conditioner, and the humidity is at moderate 80* fahrenheit and last time she ate was a week and 3 days ago,and i dont have the money to take her to the vet and she has gone poop as well and i give her calcium and i change her water every day and i got her from petsmart and year and three month ago and i feed her for 3 day then skip 3 days and i dont use gloves i wash my hands before handleing her is there any thing i can do to save mistys life please frogman1031 help me

[LilyPad]

That was difficult to read with no punctuation. In the future, it would help to copy/paste the questions and answer from there. Please try to make sure you've answered them all thoroughly.

The only thing I can tell you is to make sure you put her in a much smaller tank. 20-30 gallons is too big for a 2 month old pacman. Also, get an accurate reading of the humidity.

[Frogman1031]

You should raise the humidity. It should be on the high end of "moderate" or the low end of "tropical" analog thermo/hygrometers are not very helpful or accurate

you should be feeding every other day. Never feed back to back days unless the frog is a juvenile. There may be a digestive issue.

is there any sign of impaction? Lumps on the side?

you need to organize your response and be VERY specific and at least try to answer all the questions. It could be the smallest thing that is causing this.

Unfortunately a vet may be the only option. I would consider one...

at this age the frog will not be dying of hunger this quick unless infection has set in. Please try to remain calm and carefully read through both my advice and others to resolve the problem.

[Frogman1031]

That was difficult to read with no punctuation. In the future, it would help to copy/paste the questions and answer from there. Please try to make sure you've answered them all thoroughly.

The only thing I can tell you is to make sure you put her in a much smaller tank. 20-30 gallons is too big for a 2 month old pacman. Also, get an accurate reading of the humidity.

amy, the frog is a year and three months. I would agree on moving the frog but it may do more harm than good at this point

[eyesthatrock]

to frogman1031 yes there is a lump on her right side, and every thing we talked about a month or two ago is still the same if u reamber what we talked about, how can i get the limp off

[LilyPad]

Sorry, I wasn't translating all that well. I read "three months" in my hurry to try to get through it (and looking back I see that I typed even that incorrect, I shouldn't hang out on forums while I'm sick haha.) I believe even 10 gallons is ideal for an adult pacman, correct?

[Frogman1031]

Mike, try giving the frog a bath in luke warm water that is declorinated. Is the lump hard? When was the last time that you found poop? Is the frog sluggish in any way? I do not know the proper technique for bathing the frog in this, but get some unflavored pedialyte.

Amy, yes, for most pacman frogs ten gallons is more than enough space. I would imagine that a large female would need a little more space. However, during times of stress it is not best to move them around unless in order to move them into isolated quarantine. Which, for a pacman frog, is even more stressful because they cant burrow.

[eyesthatrock]

frogman1031 i found poop yesterday at 12:00am and the lump is alittle hard is that bad or good im freaking out please help

[Frogman1031]

I hate to keep asking more questions but is the lump on the left or right side of the frog? It sounds like it may be impaction?

[eyesthatrock]

its ok bro its on her right side bro how or what can i do so do u reamber what we talked about a month or two ago

[Lija]

Hi and welcome to the forums.

Dont panic! We'll figure that out. By the way, it is normal for adult pacs to not eat for 2 weeks once in a while, especially at that time of the year. In fact my big girlie is resting too, she wasnt eating for 3 weeks now.
However lets see if everything else is all right, so not to miss anything here.

can you please post pic of your frog from top, and pic of the enclosure itself. You also haven't answered to a few qs. How often do you change substrate? Do you supplementing food and how often? Do you use both ca/d3 and miltivitamins?
what are you feeding her?
please answer all of these qs so we can go further.
Thank you

[eyesthatrock]

hello lija and thank u. i feed her crikits and mealworms and superworms 3 times every other day. but now i feed her twice a day now. from the info i found online, thats what they told me to do, and i use cal viteamens and its a miltivitamins all in one by they way, and i change her substrate every other 3 week some time i go 3 and a half weeks so i dont stress her, and here are some pics of her home. and of her by the way, and the lump is on her right side if u can see it, its the last pic of her on a close up, i did some looking up online about the lump and they said it could be an impaction from over feeding her. can u please help me out.

[Frogman1031]

Mealworms and superworms both have high levels of chitin, which is very hard for the frog to digest. They are only good as a treat, if that.

Feeding should be 3-4 times a week at this age. Only babies need to eat everyday

[eyesthatrock]

ok thank u frogman1031 but whats chitin and should i have a fan blowing in my tank cuz its always so hot in there and i feel bad for misty

[Frogman1031]

Chitin is similar to keratin. It makes up the exoskeletons of many, if not all arthropods. Mealworms and superworms have hard exoskeletons that make it hard to digest. The daytime temps should be 80-83 and a fall at night to around 76-77. These frogs come from hot and humid environments and when you are sweating and feeling miserable they are having a ball.

[Lija]

You are feeding her 3times a day every other day? And she is eating?

Anyhow, no judgement here, lets do what needs to be done now.
how are you feeding her, tongs? Or just dropping food in front of her?

First of all, they dont overfeed, they dont eat more then they can handle, however food need to be healthy, pretty much like for people, burger/fries diet vs healthy diet.
You need to forget about mealworms and superworms, both are fattening, as well as Eli mentioned already, they are high in chitin component that frogs cant digest, feeding those can lead to impaction.
crickets are very poor feeder too, they provide very little nutrition and are not enough for an adult frog.

Get nightcrawlers from any bait stores, make sure they are not dyed, although I've never seen dyed nightcrawlers myself, I've head they do exist. Nightcrawlers are by far the best food for pacman frogs, easy to digest, they have the best P:Ca ration for them too. You can also feed dubia.

She looks perfectly healthy, at her size she should be hungry 2x3times a week. You can do a warm bath for her to help her poop, you can add a few drops of honey to your water, but make sure the water level is no higher then frogs chin. Keep her in therefor about 20 min and then replace honey water with regular dechlor water also warm for another 20 min. During these bath you can very very gently massage that hard lump on a left side.

[eyesthatrock]

ok frogman0131 sweet thanks for the info but in the day time its all ways at 80-83 some times 87 and at night time its falls at 76-77 some times at 78 how can i get it at the right temp

[Lija]

Also - you have C. Cranwelli, not C. Ornata as you mention you have