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    Today I was cleaning my one Pac-Man enclosure I remove my frog put them in a holding tank and realize something wasn't quite right he had a hard lump on the left side just before his rear leg not the best picture but hope somebody can help me with any info!!! Nothing has changed!!!!Name:  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1411060628.116449.jpg
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    Default Re: HELP!!!! Please!!!!!

    Please answer the questions below to the very best of your ability. Number them and if you cant answer something, say "i dont know" instead of leaving it blank. And do be very specific.




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    1----what 'kind' of frog is it ( what species)
    2----please include a photo of the frog
    3----Please include a photo of the frog's current enclosure
    4----size of enclosure ( W" x D" x H" )
    5----# on inhabitants - ( if there is another frog --- is there a size difference ? )
    6----has or was the frog kept with a different species or with any other tank mate
    7----is there a new tank mate----was the new tank mate quarantined
    8----what is the typical humidity level
    9----what temperature is maintained
    10---what is, specifically, being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure
    11---describe the enclosure lighting ( very specifically)
    12---describe enclosure maintenance ( water changes, cleaning etc)
    13---what kind of water is used
    -----for misting
    -----for the frog's soaking dish
    -----is de-chlorinator used / what brand
    14---material(s) used for substrate - be very specific
    15---enclosure set up:
    -----if recent - describe how the enclosure was cleaned
    -----plants( live or artificial) if artificial plants are used are they plastic or fabric
    -----describe wood, bark , and background materials
    16---when is the last time the frog ate
    17---have you found poop lately
    18---how often is the frog fed
    19---what size feeder is given
    20---what other feeders are used as treats
    21---what is the frog's main food source
    22---do feeders roam free in the enclosure or is the frog bowl fed
    23---vitamins - what brand and how often
    24---calcium - what brand and how often
    25---was the frog without calcium for any period of time
    26---approximate age of the frog
    27---how long have you owned the frog
    28---who cared for the frog before you
    29---is the frog wild caught or captive bred
    30---how often the frog is handled -- are gloves used ( what kind of gloves)
    31---is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area
    30---has or was the frog properly quarantined (yes or no)
    -----for how long
    32---has the frog been treated with any medication:
    -----for what
    -----name of medication
    -----for how long
    -----what dose
    -----was medication prescribed by a herp vet

    Litoria
    caerulea 1.1.0 (White's Tree Frog)
    Lampropeltis triangulum hondurensis ​0.1.0 (Anerythristic Honduran Milk Snake) Tliltocatl albopilosus 0.0.2 (Curly Hair Tarantula)
    Aphonopelma hentzi 0.0.1 (Texas Brown Tarantula)
    Avicularia avicularia 0.0.2 (Pinktoe Tarantula)
    Brachypelma smithi ex. annitha 0.0.1 (Mexican Giant Red Knee Tarantula) Monocentropus balfouri 0.0.2 (Socotra Island Blue Baboon Tarantula)
    Harpactira pulchripes
    0.0.1 (Golden Blue Leg Baboon Tarantula)

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    1----what 'kind' of frog is it PACMAN ORNATA

    2----please include a photo of the frog

    3----Please include a photo of the frog's current enclosure

    4----size of enclosure ( W" x D" x H" )

    5----# on inhabitants - ( if there is another frog --- is there a size difference ? ) ONE JUST HIM

    6----has or was the frog kept with a different species or with any other tank mate
    NO

    7----is there a new tank mate----was the new tank mate quarantined
    NO

    8----what is the typical humidity leveL
    80%

    9----what temperature is maintained 83*

    10---what is, specifically, being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure
    Uth side mount

    11---describe the enclosure lighting 10 watt led

    12---describe enclosure maintenance ( water changes, cleaning etc)
    Water change daily
    Enclosure cleaned every 3 weeks

    13---what kind of water is used
    Tap (well water) with reptisafe water conditioner
    -----for misting
    Same

    -----for the frog's soaking dish
    Same
    -----is de-chlorinator used / what brand

    14---material(s) used for substrate - be very specific
    Eco earth
    15---enclosure set up:
    Critter cage (still in quarantine)
    -----if recent - describe how the enclosure was cleaned

    -----plants( live or artificial) if artificial plants are used are they plastic or fabric

    Artificial plastic

    -----describe wood, bark , and background materials NONE

    16---when is the last time the frog ate
    YESTERDAY

    17---have you found poop lately
    YES
    18---how often is the frog fed
    DAILY
    19---what size feeder is given
    3/4 cricket trying to switch over to night crawlers

    20---what other feeders are used as treats
    NONE

    21---what is the frog's main food source
    CRICKETS/nightcrawers
    22---do feeders roam free in the enclosure or is the frog bowl fed
    Roam
    23---vitamins - what brand and how often
    REPASHY SUPERVITE ONCE A WEEK

    24---calcium - what brand and how often REPTI CAL WITH D3 4 times a week

    25---was the frog without calcium for any period of time
    Never
    26---approximate age of the frog
    7 months
    27---how long have you owned the frog
    3 months

    28---who cared for the frog before you
    Local pet smart
    29---is the frog wild caught or captive bred
    CB
    30---how often the frog is handled -- are gloves used ( what kind of gloves)
    ONLY WHEN CLEANING ENCLOSURE
    31---is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area
    LOW
    30---has or was the frog properly quarantined (yes or no)

    -----for how long YES 30 days

    32---has the frog been treated with any medication: NONE

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    Hmmm..your husbandry seems fine. Im not sure what the problem is. Could be parasites or impaction or some other infection. I recommend that you seek help from a vet or at the very least, send in for a fecal test

    Litoria
    caerulea 1.1.0 (White's Tree Frog)
    Lampropeltis triangulum hondurensis ​0.1.0 (Anerythristic Honduran Milk Snake) Tliltocatl albopilosus 0.0.2 (Curly Hair Tarantula)
    Aphonopelma hentzi 0.0.1 (Texas Brown Tarantula)
    Avicularia avicularia 0.0.2 (Pinktoe Tarantula)
    Brachypelma smithi ex. annitha 0.0.1 (Mexican Giant Red Knee Tarantula) Monocentropus balfouri 0.0.2 (Socotra Island Blue Baboon Tarantula)
    Harpactira pulchripes
    0.0.1 (Golden Blue Leg Baboon Tarantula)

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    It's something he ate, he hasn't digested it yet, or maybe isn't able to, it could be a wood chip, unless if you fed him something quite large and a bit hard, like a big beetle

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    Default HELP!!!! Please!!!!!

    I'm starting to think it's an impaction I haven't changed anything in his diet... Whatever it is dosent seem to bother him his eating reflexes are still the same... If it's impaction we he pass it on his own or does it need to goto a vet!

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    You can try a bath in lukewarm water that has been declrorianted. It does look like a big bump. Get in touch with a vet either way

    Litoria
    caerulea 1.1.0 (White's Tree Frog)
    Lampropeltis triangulum hondurensis ​0.1.0 (Anerythristic Honduran Milk Snake) Tliltocatl albopilosus 0.0.2 (Curly Hair Tarantula)
    Aphonopelma hentzi 0.0.1 (Texas Brown Tarantula)
    Avicularia avicularia 0.0.2 (Pinktoe Tarantula)
    Brachypelma smithi ex. annitha 0.0.1 (Mexican Giant Red Knee Tarantula) Monocentropus balfouri 0.0.2 (Socotra Island Blue Baboon Tarantula)
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    Default Re: HELP!!!! Please!!!!!

    Looks like an impaction. A bit pointy... Are you certain there's nothing (wood chips/cage decor/moss/ect) that he could have eaten?

    Put a few drops of honey in dechlorinated lukewarm water, and let him soak for awhile. If he doesn't pass the impaction or look like he's trying after ten or fifteen minutes, you can try GENTLY massaging the lump. This sometimes helps to break it up and help it pass. You can also place your finger on the skin just above the frog's cloaca (tailbone area), and gently push upward toward the frog's back (try this while he's in the soak). This motion will push the frog forward slightly, and cause him to clench his back legs to try and stay in the same place. That clenching motion uses the same muscle groups they use to poop, and will sometimes get them to try. It sounds a bit odd, but mine has consistent impaction problems from an incident that happened a couple years ago that we think affected her neurological system and it has worked countless times for her.

    Also, since you know now that your frog may be prone to impaction (some just are, it doesn't sound like anything you did) you should check him regularly for impaction and give him soaks as soon as you notice the problem.
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    Default HELP!!!! Please!!!!!

    I would like to thank everyone for helping! I have never had an issue with impaction until now. I'm going to try the worm bath ASAP do you think I should put a few drops of honey in or no?

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    Yes a couple drops of Honey.
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    Default Re: HELP!!!! Please!!!!!

    How is frog doing ?
    Remember to take care of the enclosure and it will take care of your frog !​

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    The lump is still there

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    Quote Originally Posted by daveRazzi View Post
    The lump is still there
    Where is it from and what were they housing it on? That is definitely not good.

    If it is an impaction you need to stop feeding him or you'll make it worse.

    If bathe him daily. Make sure the water is aroun 78°F to 80°F and only up to his chin. If the frog doesn't pass it in a couple more days you may want to see a vet. You can give him a small amount of mineral oil orally. About 0.01ml per 10 grams of body weight.


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    I would like to thank everyone!!! He has passed the impaction!!! Things are looking good!


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    Quote Originally Posted by daveRazzi View Post
    I would like to thank everyone!!! He has passed the impaction!!! Things are looking good!


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