So I have had my Vietnamese Blue(Klaus) for over a year now and this morning I was shocked to find him dead in the tank. He was very bloated and his tongue was sticking out. Honestly it kind of looked like he was blowing up from the inside out. Last night he was absolutely fine and ate his fair share of crickets. He was in a terrarium that has a waterfall feature but not so much water that he could drown in. there are 3 other frogs that live in there with him and i'm just concerned that they may get whatever Klaus had. one is a white's tree frog and 2 others are green tree frogs.
As a side note, he has always acted different from the other frogs that I have had (whites and greens) and has always liked to sit in the water. This morning I did find him in the water, and I do know that this could cause him to bloat, but not swell from the inside out like that. his whole mouth was open and it looked like he was about to burst. any help would be appreciated. I just want to know what happened and how I can prevent this from happening to my other frogs.
Thanks,
Mary
Oy...I'm very sorry for your loss, that is never easy.
Let's start with the issue of mixing species. Different parasites/fungal infections/toxins and stress will slowly kill your frogs. Vietnamese blue tree frogs that are on the market are primarily wild caught as far as I'm aware. I have been keeping an eye on their market for about 3 years now and have yet to see a captive bred. In those cases, you need to have a fecal test done and have your frog swabbed for fungal infections.
I would recommend getting the other 3 into separate tanks (whites in one, green tree frogs in another) and getting fecal testing done asap. You should also read the care sheets as these species have different care requirements.
It would also help to copy/paste and fill this out so we can get a better idea of what is going on -
1----what 'kind' of frog is it ( what species)
2----please include a photo of the frog
3----Please include a photo of the frog's current enclosure
4----size of enclosure ( W" x D" x H" )
5----# on inhabitants - ( if there is another frog --- is there a size difference ? )
6----has or was the frog kept with a different species or with any other tank mate
7----is there a new tank mate----was the new tank mate quarantined
8----what is the typical humidity level
9----what temperature is maintained
10---what is, specifically, being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure
11---describe the enclosure lighting ( very specifically)
12---describe enclosure maintenance ( water changes, cleaning etc)
13---what kind of water is used
-----for misting
-----for the frog's soaking dish
-----is de-chlorinator used / what brand
14---material(s) used for substrate - be very specific
15---enclosure set up:
-----if recent - describe how the enclosure was cleaned
-----plants( live or artificial) if artificial plants are used are they plastic or fabric
-----describe wood, bark , and background materials
16---when is the last time the frog ate
17---have you found poop lately
18---how often is the frog fed
19---what size feeder is given
20---what other feeders are used as treats
21---what is the frog's main food source
22---do feeders roam free in the enclosure or is the frog bowl fed
23---vitamins - what brand and how often
24---calcium - what brand and how often
25---was the frog without calcium for any period of time
26---approximate age of the frog
27---how long have you owned the frog
28---who cared for the frog before you
29---is the frog wild caught or captive bred
30---how often the frog is handled -- are gloves used ( what kind of gloves)
31---is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area
30---has or was the frog properly quarantined (yes or no)
-----for how long
32---has the frog been treated with any medication:
-----for what
-----name of medication
-----for how long
-----what dose
-----was medication prescribed by a herp vet
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Hello and welcome to FF! Above questions are very important to help out surviving frogs; but most valuable thing you could do right now is to separate the different frog species to their own individual enclosures. Also, did you quarantine these frogs individually before placing them in a common enclosure? Where fecals or any other tests done during quarantine? Thank you!
Remember to take care of the enclosure and it will take care of your frog!
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