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    Quote Originally Posted by DVirginiana View Post
    I don't think you've got a good picture of how pacs react to hydration and humidity. Having dry seasons in the wild doesn't make them more tolerant of humidity; they go into estivation to AVOID the dry spells. Unless they are estivating, they are just as sensitive as any other common pet species to low humidity, and like Grif said 50% is way too low. Putting them in water doesn't make up for keeping them too dry other times (unless I'm confused and you're saying the frog has a wet area that it can choose to go to on its own, rather than waiting for you to put it there?)
    Ill show you 2 current photos of my pacs . With too much humidity My pacs wont even come out from under the soil .They have a water bowl in the coco-husk tank . The second tank is just water , the outside tank(50 gallon )Name:  Dean sept252014.jpg
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Size:  56.2 KB which i am moving inside soon because of the weather change is water , some moss and coco-husk mix , a few rocks for them to climb on and a wooden tree-bark arch they can go under or on top of ( the ones sold at stores everyone seems to use) (my pacs seem to ignore it a lot). (Also they are never fed in the water tank with the moss as i do not want impactation) In the coco-husk tank One half is always moist the other a bit dryer giving them a diversity to choose from .the uth is on the bottom as my tank is on a stand which has rails but no bottom to hold the heat in(its actually better than using the silicone feet that come with the pad to keep it off the ground for air convection, it disperses enough heat that i have never had a frog burnt by laying over the pad ).So at the soil the humidity is much higher .the frogs pic and choose where to go for what actual humidity they desire .Like they would in the wild .The infrared lights are on top of the coco-husk tank in a raised dome on cold nights they like to bask under it .This has worked very well for my frogs , they aren't stressed or hibernating all the time and as you can see they are extremely healthy.Everything i raise is healthy and not at all underweight or scrawny looking .My afcs are as big as the palm of your hand my pacs even bigger . Judge for yourself they are healthy, happy , fat,well cared for frogs.The skin is moist lacking no humidity .common misconception is people do not account for the soils humidity .The soils humidity is probably 80 percent down to 60 percent .As my soil is 6 to 8 inches deep it varies upon depth . The ruler is a foot long to show the frogs length .the female is 6 in the male 4 .
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    Too much humidity does not cause them to burrow down. The lack of it does and if you didn't know already 80% is their ideal humidity level. I'm not sure why you believe the frog being burrowed down all the way with high humidity levels are related, but I can assure you that this is not a correlation. Sure Ceratophrys cranwelli can handle a bit lower humidity than say C. ornata or C. aurita, but you don't house them in dry conditions just because they can cope with it for short periods of time. They should only be exposed to such conditions if you were aestivating them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy View Post
    Judge for yourself they are healthy, happy , fat,well cared for frogs.The skin is moist lacking no humidity .common misconception is people do not account for the soils humidity .
    I once saw a ten year old goldfish, still in good health, being kept in a five gallon tank with dirty water over aquarium rocks. Just because an animal is in good health doesn't mean the conditions it's being kept in are correct. People that know a lot more about keeping these animals than you do are telling you that certain aspects of your husbandry are incorrect; I'm not sure why you insist that you've discovered better ways to keep them when you have no experience that would give you information that everyone else hasn't taken into account.
    Pacs are tough to kill for frogs; that doesn't mean that any condition that doesn't kill them is correct.
    3.0 Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
    1.1 Thamnophis cyrtopsis ocellatus
    0.1 Ceratophrys cranwelli
    1.0 Litoria caerulea
    0.1 Terrapene carolina
    0.1 Python regius
    0.1 Grammostola rosea
    0.0.1 Brachypelma smithi
    0.1 Hogna carolinensis

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    its not desert griff lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy View Post
    its not desert griff lol
    Just making sure.


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