FBT sick. Cloudy eyes. Not eating.

[Frogman1031]

Ok, there are some things that must be fixed here.

reptibark, glass gems, and spaghnum moss are all extremely dangerous to your frogs. If swallowed the frog can become impacted and have digestive troubles and possibly die. for the first thirty days, the frogs should be in a quarantine enclosure. The enclosure should include
-paper towels as substrate (damp and unprinted)
-a water dish
-a place to hide.
-maybe a decoration.
this enclosure setup makes it easier to monitor feeding and poop. after the quarantine period, the substrate should be either coco fiber, or ABG mix or something similar.

Humidity is important to know. It may be the cause if the problems. A hygrometer (digital) that is reliable can be purchased for around 20 dollars

someone correct me if i am wrong but i think the temps are a little too high.

the water dish should be cleaned every day and replaced with treated tap water.

the crickets should be NO BIGGER than the space between the eyes. The frog can choke or become impacted. Once again, the superworms are not a good idea.

with the substrate you are using(which should be replaced), if the feeders roam free the chance of impaction rises significantly.

multivitamin powders are very important to the health of your frog. They should be dusted on the feeders, which again, should not be mealworms or superworms. How do you dust? I put the crickets in a high cup then pour some powder in and shake them around until covered.

no, if you are buying vitabugs, calcium is NOT added in. Even if it was, they would not be as nutritious as a dusted cricket. The same method for dusting the calcium. A good company to get both from would be repashy.

once again, the quarantine setup mentioned is important.


after all this, my guess is impaction. Look for lumps in the frogs abdomen. Hopefully other members will chime in with more info on how to treat it.

[MegSeig]

Thank you. This is very frustrating, as reptibark and spanghum moss were both recommended. The crickets I am giving them are small, so I think that's ok. I've stopped the worms and I'll take care of the tank.

Do they need to be separated from each other even though they came from the same tank?

So far, Pele seems fine. I saw her today. She lives in my classroom so I won't see her tomorrow. I've brought Hestia home with me and she is in a plastic carrier that is quite small, but I'll get another one. She's still alive but not moving around much.


I got a picture of Hestia. I'll post it tonight when I can. I'm about to run out the door right now.

[Frogman1031]

If neither frog was sick, then they would be fine together. However, in this case, the sick frog needs to be quarantined separately from the other frog.

[Mentat]

Hello and welcome to FF! Very sorry your frog is not well . Well, appears you have been ill advised; so lets fix that by showing you a good care article for FBTs: Frog Forum - Fire-Bellied Toad Care and Breeding - Bombina orientalis and relatives.

Hopefully frog has not swallowed anything too bad and it can pass it. If right side is more swollen than left and feels hard, frog is probably impacted so let us know.

Cloudy eyes is a sign of a bacterial issue. Get a bottle of Melafix in fish section of pet store and prepare a gallon (or as much as needed) solution adding to dechlorinated water according to label directions for fish. Use solution for all frogs needs, i.e. water dish, etc. and to give frog 2 baths morning and evening in chin deep water. Clean water dish and replace solution daily for 7 days and let us know how it goes. Solution will keep OK for couple days when stored in the dark.

If your water area is filtered by cycled filter, you can do a weekly water change; but if not, you have to do daily water changes in wet area of at least 25%. Water dishes should be cleaned with hot water and refilled daily.

Recommend add not dyed night crawlers (Walmart or local bait shop) to their diet. Can cut into mouth sized pieces with scissors from pointy end. More information on dusting in here: http://www.frogforum.net/food-feeder...schedules.html. Hope this helps and good luck !

[MegSeig]

Hello and welcome to FF! Very sorry your frog is not well . Well, appears you have been ill advised; so lets fix that by showing you a good care article for FBTs: Frog Forum - Fire-Bellied Toad Care and Breeding - Bombina orientalis and relatives.

Hopefully frog has not swallowed anything too bad and it can pass it. If right side is more swollen than left and feels hard, frog is probably impacted so let us know.

Cloudy eyes is a sign of a bacterial issue. Get a bottle of Melafix in fish section of pet store and prepare a gallon (or as much as needed) solution adding to dechlorinated water according to label directions for fish. Use solution for all frogs needs, i.e. water dish, etc. and to give frog 2 baths morning and evening in chin deep water. Clean water dish and replace solution daily for 7 days and let us know how it goes. Solution will keep OK for couple days when stored in the dark.

If your water area is filtered by cycled filter, you can do a weekly water change; but if not, you have to do daily water changes in wet area of at least 25%. Water dishes should be cleaned with hot water and refilled daily.

Recommend add not dyed night crawlers (Walmart or local bait shop) to their diet. Can cut into mouth sized pieces with scissors from pointy end. More information on dusting in here: http://www.frogforum.net/food-feeder...schedules.html. Hope this helps and good luck !

How do you recommend handling the poor dear? I try not to touch them as I know its not good for them.

I don't see any bulges or anything, but I haven't picked her up and held her or felt her belly. I looked at it from underneath the little carrier she's in because it's clear. Didn't notice anything weird but she is flat against it.

I think I used to have some melafix for my fish, but the dog ate it.

[MegSeig]

I think one side is a bit swollen, though she seemed to be feeling better yesterday.

how do I give a frog a bath?

[Mentat]

If frog gets into medicated solution and spends most of day in there you can skip the bath. If frog stays on paper towels; a small critter keeper or a plastic container with holed up top filled to frogs chin level will work .

[MegSeig]

The glass gems seem way too big for her to swallow