Whites Tree Frogs

[Syrinx]

Oh Mentat I don't know how but I missed your post. Thanks for the info, & I'd love to get the 90cm high one but I've made a bookcase type thing that unfortunately wouldn't house the 90cm with lights etc... Maybe I'll rebuild it & get the 90cm high one but it'll cost me quite a bit. The gecko tank & 60cm high frog tank fit well but I totally get what you're saying about the land area taking up height. The first thing the frogs did (even the poorly one) was try & get as high as they could.

All of you that have replied have been very helpful, thanks, I can tell you want the best for the frogs

Peace

Ed

[irThumper]

Can frogs develop Torticollis/Vestibular disease aka "Wry neck"...? It can be caused by a parasitic infection...

[Syrinx]

Hello,

I've been to the vet, the 2 Green ones have been given a clean bill of health, the brown (poorly) one, the vet doesn't know what the matter is, he couldn't do an X-Ray (as i hadn't asked over the phone for one so he didn't have it prepared - right OK!) I'm going back tomorrow to do one. He thinks its an infection and took some tests which i'll find out this week.

The brown one has started to turn green, The vet thinks this is a very good sign that his home and diet so far is okay. The problem is as i explained to the vet he ate well on the Saturday but seemed to regurgitate the locust the next day. He/She hasn't eaten since. The Green ones are eating small crickets 3 times a day.

I've been watching the poorly one almost constantly and he travels quite well but doesn't like getting in the water as he spins around & around, basically thrashing... The smaller green one is so sweet towards him/her, they have a strong bond. The bigger green one seems to prefer his own company.

I would admit the poorly one doesn't seem to be very happy (mind wise) and hasn't produced waste. The other 2 have produced 2 poos each.

I have been up late trying to save my elderly ferret, my ferret sadly died in terrifying circumstances (screaming seizures! i didn't know what they were until 1am Sunday morning) he died 4am Monday morning. Anyway that's helped me have more time watching the frogs at strange times of the day/night and they are brilliantly active, they seem to be very happy.

Funnily enough when the screaming woke me up i went running thinking it was the frogs and what i had been warned about on here - the noise!! I was proper cursing them until i realised what it actually was.

[Mentat]

I'm very sorry for the ferret's death !

[Syrinx]

Thank you Mentat, he was a much loved ferret, he nearly got to 13 years old. Shame he went in a completely unimaginable way. Our other ferret seems lost & is very much grieving.

Anyway back to frogs...

[irThumper]

Poor ferret!

I would ask the vet if the frog could have Torticollis... the spinning sure reminds me of wry neck...

[Syrinx]

Hello everyone, sorry for the late replies.


Unfortunately my other Ferret died, she just gave up wanting to live after her mate died. Other problems have been in the household too so i haven't had much time to come back to report what happened to the frog.


The Vet did the X-ray and it was a curved spine, it could have been caused by various reasons but the vet thinks (because of damage to the tissue around the spine) that something has fallen on him. He thinks the frog was stuck for quite a while and used his body to free himself causing quite a painful body jerk, the vet described it like Whiplash. He said, like advised here, that it would be a lot and constant work for me to keep him alive. Once the vet said he doubted he was in any pain i decided to give it ago. He unfortunately died 3 days later which I guess was down to having no food for over a week. The vet didn't seem to think that that was a problem before i decided to take the frog home after the X-Ray. I know i couldn't survive with food for a week.


The other 2 are growing and are very funny to watch, they have really livened up now the other one has died, they are feeding on Dubia Roaches, Crickets, Earthworms & Locusts. (always dusted) The Earthworms take ages to die man, i don't know whether i'm supposed to find it an ugly experience watching 1/4 of the worm coming back out the mouth several times, but YUCK!! and the Roaches you can see them moving inside the frog. Which also makes me shiver. I love the way the Frogs tell me they are hungry by coming to the front of the glass on the main leaf and they sit with wide eyes following me round the room. They certainly enjoy being centre of attention.


Anyway... I have another question about tank size. With the Ferrets sadly gone we now have more room. I was originally going for a 90x45x60, Mentat suggested the 90x45x90, but i've seen a 60x45x90.


I can fit 90x45x90 and the 60x45x90 in the room but i'd like to fit all the tanks i have down one wall mainly because i don't want to take all my field guides on UK wildlife down from the other wall, but also i think it'll look awesome having a wall of tanks. My wife is finally getting a wow factor in the bedroom, shame its not our bedroom and me doing the wowing but i'm always quite proud of myself when i railroad her into letting me spend stupid money, at least this time she is loving the results.


Would the frogs be just as happy with less floor space if i got the 60x45x90 one?


Thanks


Ed

[irThumper]

I'm concerned to have noticed the same sort of thing with my appx 2 1/4" inch juvenile WTF, Shirley... She was shedding the other day and I noticed she seemed to be "stuck"; she had skin still going down her gullet, but it seemed more on one side, pulling her head more to the right. She jumped out of the water dish after a cricket and hit the side of the tank while she was this way, and now, even though she is apparently done shedding (from what I can tell) she is still lopsided with her head more to one side. At one point she was also circling, like the above mentioned poorly brown frog in this thread. Now the diff is that Shirley is plump, and tonight she was still eating crickets like a champ-- she can turn her head to either side, though she's still more inclined to have it to the right, but she went right after her meals and ate 4-5 or more. She didn't fall from a height (though she did land on her back a couple times coming out of the water dish, onto damp paper towels) and as far as I know she wasn't stuck in anything, so not a clue what is going on. Will keep an eye on her and hope she will improve :/ Haven't even gotten everyone treated for coccidiosis yet and now this, *sigh*. That's what I get for falling for Petco frogs I guess...

[irThumper]

I just found this while trying to search vestibular disease and scoliosis in frogs: Scoliosis in frogs???? - talk to the frog Can this be related to Chytrid?? I had the Pacific chorus/tree frogs here, and I know PTFs can be a vector for such things as Chytrid, without showing any symptoms of the illness themselves, but could my other frogs catch something like that just by being in the same room that the other frogs had been in? (Not the same tank or anything).

[Frogman1031]

I don't think that chytrid can be related to the "Frog Scoliosis". Chytrid is a fungal disease and is dangerous to amphibians because it blocks their skin pores, not allowing them to absorb air and water. Can you post a pic of the frog's lopsided head?

[irThumper]

I don't think that chytrid can be related to the "Frog Scoliosis". Chytrid is a fungal disease and is dangerous to amphibians because it blocks their skin pores, not allowing them to absorb air and water. Can you post a pic of the frog's lopsided head?

She's asleep in the water dish right now (seems to be spending a lot of time in there the last few days) but I'll try to get a pic when she gets up to eat tonight.

[irThumper]

Got some video footage of her. I hope she snaps out of this! Poor girl, I feel sorry for her https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNYV...ature=youtu.be