The thing is they aren't native to Oregon, and the state doesn't want them here because they say they are a threat to our native species... I already found out about not being able to keep our Pacific tree frogs as pets, but I was so looking forward to getting the Grays to keep in their place. So much for that, *sigh* Well, I still have Whites as an option, I just want to make very very VERY sure I am ready for them.